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  • One of those types who think the world is 6,000 years old...
    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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    • Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy


      The doctrine of JW's and Mormons is not true because it doesn't hold to the original Orthodox Christian teachings, but when it all comes down to it it's the individual that matters.
      Better chuck out pagan inspired festivals then, if we're going to get back to 'original' Christianity. No more Christmas for you, no more Easter. No more nonsense about three wise men (who weren't kings, but astrologers, who we know are a class of men the Bible tells us are to be shunned and despised) and stables.




      Which of the 57 varieties of 'original' Christianity would that be anyway ?

      The Pauline Hellenized Judaic version, or the Jacobite Jewish leaning version ?


      Would it be the Arian or Athanasian version ?


      The 'organized' church or the Gnostic church ?


      The arrogance of Christian sectaries, each of whom claims to have the 'true' or 'only' way never amazes me, because it we hear it so often now.
      Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

      ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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      • Today however, 99.9% of all prophecy can theoretically be fulfilled through technological means and about 85% of it has already been fulfilled this way.
        Yes of course! All you need to raise a corpse that probably never existed is a microwave oven and the Blue Man Group
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        • Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
          Today however, 99.9% of all prophecy can theoretically be fulfilled through technological means and about 85% of it has already been fulfilled this way.


          Except for the lunatical Revelations, which you so love, prophecies in other books are supposed to have been fulfilled centuries ago.
          (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
          (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
          (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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          • Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
            Before the 19th century prophecy was not very well understood and scholars got it all wrong, mostly because back then almost all prophecies could not possibly be fulfilled without supernatural intervention.


            Everyone, I want you to see this here. MNG just admitted I was correct and that he is not a true Christian. Victory is mine!

            Laugh it up and you'll see yourself on my ignore list. Then you can just forget about having your little bit of fun debating with me.


            I'm laughing at you because nothng I've said is hate-filled. You're just mad cuz I'm running rings around you factually.
            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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            • Atheism is actually on a rather strong rise in Canada. I have no idea as to the worldwide numbers, but I doubt it's declining in Western Europe or Japan either. The rest of the world had very little atheism to start with, other than the US. Since the US doesn't keep track of religious choices of its citizens it would probably be hard to quantify.
              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
              Stadtluft Macht Frei
              Killing it is the new killing it
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              • Originally posted by Urban Ranger


                Except for the lunatical Revelations, which you so love, prophecies in other books are supposed to have been fulfilled centuries ago.
                Most Biblical "prophecies" were fulfilled before the said "prophecies" were written, actually. Mighty convenient, eh?
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                • Atheism has never been very strong here, KH. We have been an exceptionally religious country since the Great Awakening in the early 19th Century. At best, there was a strong Deist following among the intelligencia of the founding generation.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • @ Canada

                    Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                    Most Biblical "prophecies" were fulfilled before the said "prophecies" were written, actually. Mighty convenient, eh?
                    Yup, it says here in How to Get Your Prophecies Right...
                    (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
                    (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
                    (")_(") "Starting the fire from within."

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                    • As a percentage of Canada's population 1991 first, 2001 second:

                      Christian of one form or another: 83.4 77.1
                      Jewish: 1.2 1.1
                      Muslim: 0.9 2.0
                      Buddhist: 0.6 1.0
                      Hindu: 0.6 0.9
                      Sikh: 0.5 0.9
                      No religious affiliation: 12.5 16.5
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
                      Ultima Ratio Regum

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                      • If current trends continue in about 15 years there will be more atheists than protestants in canada, and atheists will be the second largest group (behind catholics)
                        12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                        Stadtluft Macht Frei
                        Killing it is the new killing it
                        Ultima Ratio Regum

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                        • Originally posted by Q Cubed
                          people who like Elton John don't know Black Sabbath. The two are mutually exclusive.

                          Actually, I like both.


                          I like neither.
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                          • No religious affiliation doesn't necessarily mean atheist.
                            Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                            • I know. I was going for shock value.

                              Significant minorities of that group are probably atheist, agnostic and individually spiritual/hippy bums.
                              12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                              Stadtluft Macht Frei
                              Killing it is the new killing it
                              Ultima Ratio Regum

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                              • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                                No religious affiliation doesn't necessarily mean atheist.
                                Having an religious affiliation doesn't necessarily mean not being an atheist either.

                                In Sweden, over 80% of the population are members of the Church of Sweden. A recent poll found that 16% of the population believes in a personal God.
                                Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                                It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                                The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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