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  • Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
    I can see that them Marxists have been drilling a lot of hogwash into your brain.


    Marxism's got nothing to do with your 19th Century belliefs you try to pass off as Christianity.

    That one-liner is worthy being quoted in my sig, but just because I'm Mr. Nice Guy and a Christian I'm not gonna do it.


    You think I'm afraid of you? I was Christian before you were born. I stopped being Xian for the same reason I stopped bing a pagan. It's all BS.
    Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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    • Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
      Notice the lack of participants from a pagan perspective? We've got too much taste.
      As an ex-pagan, I disrespectfully disagree. I've known too many pagans.
      Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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      • My denomination (Southern Baptist), however, doesn't hold to this belief.

        Oh, that explains why you don't speak for my God. You think my Church is filled with boy-touching papist cultists, don't you?
        B♭3

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        • You think a pagan with taste would associate with you?
          The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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          • Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp
            OK. I'm a pagan. There's your proof.

            Would you like me to explain, or do you still have all the answers?
            We're to infer you consider yourself a higher power?
            Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

            It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
            The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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            • Originally posted by Whaleboy
              What's wrong with paganism, as a whole?

              And "void" is fine if a) it's honest and b) it allows us to fill it with ourselves.
              X-ty is honest as well, but honesty isn't good as it is, without anything else.
              Fill the void with ourselves?
              That's no good. Many humans are evil.
              "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
              Middle East!

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              • Originally posted by Last Conformist

                We're to infer you consider yourself a higher power?
                Of course you are, but that's not the point.

                I'm a pagan. I celebrate life and the forces of life as they manifest themselves about me. What is the part that requires proof? The fact that there is life manifesting itself about me, or the fact that I celebrate it?

                I assumed it was the latter, because the former would be totally absurd.
                The genesis of the "evil Finn" concept- Evil, evil Finland

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                • oh, and most are egoists
                  "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                  I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                  Middle East!

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                  • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
                    Marxism's got nothing to do with your 19th Century belliefs you try to pass off as Christianity.
                    Marxism is 19th Century. The belief that Jesus will come back again is a 2,000-year-old phenomenon.

                    You think I'm afraid of you?
                    Che, I've just about had it with your hateful remarks.
                    HAVE A DAY.
                    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                    • Marxism is 19th Century. The belief that Jesus will come back again is a 2,000-year-old phenomenon.
                      Umm, that's even worse

                      Actually, all three are void, but only one is honest with themselves.
                      Perhaps, though yes, I'll take the honesty of atheism/agnosicism over the delusions of religion any day .

                      Laz is right about the pagans, and I am certainly far more sympathetic to transcendental philosophies than I am to organised religions in the monotheistic mold. I'm a little concerned the consensus image of paganism is of sadists in the wood, sacrificing virgins between chanting Satanic incantations and downloading Cradle of Filth albums . Paganism as an "ism" is way more diverse and historical than anything that calls itself "Christian".
                      "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                      "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                      • cradle of filth

                        and yes I'm a nature freak. I don't really worship nature, but I do feel a strong connection to it. I do have native american blood in me after all. but worshipping nature seems a bit silly. respecting it is not.

                        christianity is too biased towards humans.

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                        • Originally posted by Lazarus and the Gimp


                          Of course you are, but that's not the point.

                          I'm a pagan. I celebrate life and the forces of life as they manifest themselves about me. What is the part that requires proof? The fact that there is life manifesting itself about me, or the fact that I celebrate it?

                          I assumed it was the latter, because the former would be totally absurd.
                          How so? For all I know, you're just a spambot in a sterile lab.

                          Personally, I've always felt that the "celebrating life" brand of paganism to suffer from the same problem as LaVeyan Satanism; it combines all the bad points of a "normal" religion (big daddy God in the sky) religion with all the bad ones of atheism, without any of the good points of either. Tastes clearly differ.
                          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                          It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                          The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                          • Originally posted by Sava
                            See... you can't even provide evidence of your God. And when someone confronts you with this fact, you hide behind a smiley.
                            I'm pretty certain he's been told all of the evidence beforehand and has arrogantly refused to open his ears and listen; there's no sense in repeating it and there's no sense in drifting off-topic any further than this thread has already drifted.

                            And besides, not all atheists are arrogant. Some can lend some credibility to some of their claims.
                            HAVE A DAY.
                            <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                            "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                            For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                            • I'm pretty certain he's been told all of the evidence beforehand and has arrogantly refused to open his ears and listen; there's no sense in repeating it and there's no sense in drifting off-topic any further than this thread has already drifted.
                              I should think your pwnage is very much on topic . If God cannot be shown in rational terms, do you concur that efforts to do so are futile and that he does not exist, as we use the term?

                              And besides, not all atheists are arrogant. Some can lend some credibility to some of their claims.
                              I generally find it's the theists that are arrogant and generally have this ability to close their ears as soon as they hear something that they don't want to hear regarding the existence of god or any of their beliefs. I, for one, am more than prepared to listen because I am secure in the strength of the atheist argument.
                              "I work in IT so I'd be buggered without a computer" - Words of wisdom from Provost Harrison
                              "You can be wrong AND jewish" - Wiglaf :love:

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                              • Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
                                Marxism is 19th Century.


                                And it has nothing to do with your beliefs as a Dispensationalist.

                                The belief that Jesus will come back again is a 2,000-year-old phenomenon.


                                But your brand of Christianity isn't that old. In the 19th Century, a Scottsman came up with a bunch of new ideas which aren't in the Bible, and yet you adhere to them. Dispensationalism isn't even 200 years old. It most certainly isn't true Chistianity.

                                Che, I've just about had it with your hateful remarks.


                                Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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