Congressional GOP Are Scum!

[GePap]

Originally posted by DanS
It matters a lot whether these folks are just starting out in the work force.

They have to start their careers somewhere and raising the minimum wage would mean that some of them would not get that job to start their career in the first place.

Yup, cause experience shows that every time the minimum wage has gone up, the number of jobs available has collapsed....yup, every time.

Except that has NEVER happened.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DanS
It matters a lot whether these folks are just starting out in the work force.

No, it's utterly and completely irrelevent. It's just so much GOP smoke and mirrors which avoids the real issue that min wage jobs are not starter jobs for teenagers, but a source of income for families.

[DanS]

The job market doesn't have to collapse to be highly negative to some of these people. A majority may keep their jobs at the higher minimum wage, but the minority will be unable to get on the first rung of working in our economy.

It's just so much GOP smoke and mirrors which avoids the real issue that min wage jobs are not starter jobs for teenagers, but a source of income for families.

A majority of these are starter jobs. They also may support families.

[Odin]

"Sharecropper Society"

The GOP wants corporate feudalism.

[chequita guevara]

As I mentioned in the OP, if you can't pay your rent, it doesn't matter whether you're getting a smidgeon of money or no money. You still can't pay your rent, you still get evicted. And the results of raising the min wage is a increase in demand, which leads to a new round of job creation.

[Odin]

Originally posted by DanS
The job market doesn't have to collapse to be highly negative to some of these people. A majority may keep their jobs at the higher minimum wage, but the minority will be unable to get on the first rung of working in our economy.

Prove it.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by DanS
A majority of these are starter jobs. They also may support families.

There's no such thing as a starter job. There are only jobs that bosses are too cheap to pay a living wage for. They only pay this low because teens have no idea as to what money's worth yet.

More GOP lies.

[Giancarlo]

Raising the minimum wage would damage a lot of businesses and then people would not have jobs to begin with. Corporate feudalism? You leftists are just pissed you aren't getting your way.

[DanS]

I think this concept is well understood by economists. I don't think I can add to their understanding by any proof that I could provide.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
Raising the minimum wage would damage a lot of businesses and then people would not have jobs to begin with. Corporate feudalism? You leftists are just pissed you aren't getting your way.

Yup, cause experience shows that every time the minimum wage has gone up, the number of jobs available has collapsed....yup, every time.

Except that has NEVER happened.

[Giancarlo]

Odin, in fact I think otherwise. Raising the minimum wage like you leftists want would bankrupt a country's economy.

[Odin]

Originally posted by DanS
I think this concept is well understood by economists. I don't think I can add to their understanding by any proof that I could provide.

Yep, who cares about what real world experience on the matter shows when you have your precious economic models that that more to do with ideology than the pragmatism I expect of a good economist.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Giancarlo
Odin, in fact I think otherwise. Raising the minimum wage like you leftists want would bankrupt a country's economy.

PROVE IT!!!

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara


There's no such thing as a starter job. There are only jobs that bosses are too cheap to pay a living wage for. They only pay this low because teens have no idea as to what money's worth yet.

More GOP lies.

BS, Students by and large consider these jobs exactly that, starter jobs. Or would you have them glom onto dead end entry level jobs to forgo actual education and degree. Kudos to you for promoting dropout career paths.

[Imran Siddiqui]

How much of a raise of min wage are we talking anyway? If it's like up to $7/hr, then its not a big travesty we are talking about.

Though it probably should be indexed to inflation starting now. A huge jump wouldn't be a great idea at this point in time (though when the economy is in boom stage, perhaps it can work... which is when most min wage increases happen, btw, which is why this falsehood that raising that min wage promotes economic growth arises from the left).