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  • “Cows look calm, but really they are gay nymphomaniacs"

    The secret life of moody cows
    Jonathan Leake, Science Editor

    ONCE they were a byword for mindless docility. But cows have a secret mental life in which they bear grudges, nurture friendships and become excited over intellectual challenges, scientists have found.

    Cows are also capable of feeling strong emotions such as pain, fear and even anxiety — they worry about the future. But if farmers provide the right conditions, they can also feel great happiness.

    The findings have emerged from studies of farm animals that have found similar traits in pigs, goats, chickens and other livestock. They suggest that such animals may be so emotionally similar to humans that welfare laws need to be rethought.

    Christine Nicol, professor of animal welfare at Bristol University, said even chickens may have to be treated as individuals with needs and problems.

    “Remarkable cognitive abilities and cultural innovations have been revealed,” she said. “Our challenge is to teach others that every animal we intend to eat or use is a complex individual, and to adjust our farming culture accordingly.”

    Nicol will be presenting her findings to a scientific conference to be held in London next month by Compassion in World Farming, the animal welfare lobby group.

    John Webster, professor of animal husbandry at Bristol, has just published a book on the topic, Animal Welfare: Limping Towards Eden. “People have assumed that intelligence is linked to the ability to suffer and that because animals have smaller brains they suffer less than humans. That is a pathetic piece of logic,” he said.

    Webster and his colleagues have documented how cows within a herd form smaller friendship groups of between two and four animals with whom they spend most of their time, often grooming and licking each other. They will also dislike other cows and can bear grudges for months or years.

    Dairy cow herds can also be intensely sexual. Webster describes how the cows become excited when one of the herd comes into heat and start trying to mount her. “Cows look calm, but really they are gay nymphomaniacs,” he said.

    Donald Broom, professor of animal welfare at Cambridge University, who is presenting other research at the conference, will describe how cows can also become excited by solving intellectual challenges.

    In one study, researchers challenged the animals with a task where they had to find how to open a door to get some food. An electroencephalograph was used to measure their brainwaves.

    “Their brainwaves showed their excitement; their heartbeat went up and some even jumped into the air. We called it their Eureka moment,” said Broom.

    The assumption that farm animals cannot suffer from conditions that would be considered intolerable for humans is partly based on the idea that they are less intelligent than people and have no “sense of self”.

    Increasingly, however, research reveals this to be untrue. Keith Kendrick, professor of neurobiology at the Babraham Institute in Cambridge, has found that even sheep are far more complex than realised and can remember 50 ovine faces — even in profile. They can recognise another sheep after a year apart.

    Kendrick has also described how sheep can form strong affections for particular humans, becoming depressed by long separations and greeting them enthusiastically even after three years.

    The Compassion in World Farming conference will be opened with a keynote speech by Jane Goodall, the primatologist who founded the study of animal sentience with her research into chimpanzees in the early 1960s.

    Goodall overturned the then accepted belief that animals were simply automatons showing little individuality or emotions. It has taken many years, however, for scientists to accept that such ideas could be applied to a wide range of other animals.

    “Sentient animals have the capacity to experience pleasure and are motivated to seek it,” said Webster. “You only have to watch how cows and lambs both seek and enjoy pleasure when they lie with their heads raised to the sun on a perfect English summer’s day. Just like humans.”


    How does this affect your eating habbits?

    Discuss..

  • #2
    Great cheese comes from happy cows.

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    • #3
      Those cows are GAY! Gay Cows! Gay Cows!
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      • #4
        This isn't exactly the quote I was looking for, but it's something similar...

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        • #5
          I think this just shows how we need to reconcile the "libertarian rights, do-gooder" side that I once espounded with such veracity, and our own human animalism in the context of civilisation, since I think it would be absurd to treat animals as citizens and enforce veganism on everyone. How to do that is something that people far more intelligent than me can play with.

          However, yet more proof that homosexual behaviour isn't limited to humans .
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          • #6
            Re: “Cows look calm, but really they are gay nymphomaniacs"

            Originally posted by Sirotnikov

            How does this affect your eating habbits?

            The article? Not much.



            The common sense contained within the article? It's one of the reasons I've been vegetarian for the past 4 years.
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            • #7
              “People have assumed that intelligence is linked to the ability to suffer and that because animals have smaller brains they suffer less than humans. That is a pathetic piece of logic,”

              Huh? Who?



              And, no - this won't change my eating habits.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JohnT
                “People have assumed that intelligence is linked to the ability to suffer and that because animals have smaller brains they suffer less than humans. That is a pathetic piece of logic,”

                Huh? Who?
                Do you want a list of each specific person who believes that? I don't think such a long list could be compiled within our life time.
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                • #9
                  I've never even heard of the idea that intelligence is linked to the ability to suffer. How daft!

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                  • #10
                    Cows are tasty.
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                    • #11
                      professor of animal welfare

                      That made me hungry, now I want a steak
                      Stop Quoting Ben

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JohnT
                        I've never even heard of the idea that intelligence is linked to the ability to suffer. How daft!
                        You have never heard someone say "Animal's are stupid, they don't feel pain"?

                        And likewise, the majority of the scientific community believes that animals do not "feel" and can not suffer in the same way as humans because of their percieved (lack of) intelligence.
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                        • #13
                          You have never heard someone say "Animal's are stupid, they don't feel pain"?


                          No. Not a single time. This thread is literally the first time I've heard of such a concept.

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                          • #14
                            And likewise, the majority of the scientific community believes that animals do not "feel" and can not suffer in the same way as humans because of their percieved (lack of) intelligence.


                            By "feel", do you mean physical sensation or emotional?

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                            • #15
                              Anyone who claims that an animal can't feel pain has never been around an animal. I support keeping livestock in safe and human conditions, but I have no qualms about eating the animals. Though some people like to forget this, Humans are animals too, and we're part of the food chain. You can choose not to eat animals, I don't care. I'm not going to stop, though, because I don't think that its immoral to do so. Is it immoral for a wolf to eat a sheep?
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