Oscar© Autopsy

[Agathon]

@ EmpFab.

[Imran Siddiqui]

They all should have received nominations.

No, they really shouldn't. TEF is right. They are NOT Best Picture material. These aren't the People's Choice Awards, these reward filmmaking, not what is the flavor of the month.

And Sean Penn was such a loser, at least Tim Robbins and Jeremy Irons could take a joke.

Sean Penn is also working on a movie with Jude Law at the present. It may have been awkward if Law percieved Penn as not getting his back.

And Robbins did NOT take the joke well. He gave Rock the middle finger when the cameras were off and said some not so nice things about him.

[Drake Tungsten]

Rock

If you piss off Sean Penn and Tim Robbins, you're doing the right thing...

[Imran Siddiqui]

You forgot someone else Drake... he also pissed off Bill O'Reilly today because of his anti-Bush stuff . He hit the trifecta!

[Drake Tungsten]

That is amazing. Rock gets the other thumb...

[Heresson]

Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous




You mean Jan Kaczmarek for "Finding Neverland", the story about Peter Pan author J.M. Barry starring Johnny Depp and Kate Winslet, right?

I guess so. The title was translated as "dreamer" into Polish.

[SnowFire]

Neither got discriminated against because they were scifi or religious. Spider-Man II just isn't BEST PICTURE material.

Uh... why? It's an awesome movie. It has a point. If we want to be high-minded elitists and not care about quality of action scenes or cinematagrophy or anything, Spiderman II was still a darn good story. You'll have to go into more detail to defend this.

Spiderman II & Eternal Sunshine should have been nominated for Best Picture. Bah.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I expect nonsense from Ned, but you Snowfire? Spiderman II for Best Picture? You're kidding me.

Good action flick, but not evidence of good filmmaking, from the acting, directing, etc. Hell, it wasn't even nominated for a Golden Globe Best Picture!

Eternal Sunshine, OTOH, I think had an argument, but it's hard to knock any of the nominated pictures off. I've heard great things about all the nominated pictures, and The Aviator had the Scorcese name behind it as well.

[alva]

Spiderman II best movie??


What's next, Titanic maybe???!!

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Ned: Top 10%? Interesting idea. Out of the (http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/index2004.html)556 movies nominated this year, that makes 56 (rounding up, of course, to be generous).

Lets look at the top 10% for 2004, shall we?

LEGEND:
Bold indicates those that were nominated
Underline indicates those that possibly could've been nominated
Italics indicates those that a nomination would be a shot in the dark
* indicates particular favorites for Ned's idea
*** indicates WHAT ****ING EVER


Shrek 2
Spider-Man 2
Passion of the Christ
Meet the Fockers
The Incredibles
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
*The Day After Tomorrow
The Bourne Supremecy
*National Treasure
The Polar Express
Shark Tale
I, Robot
*Troy
Ocean's Twelve
50 First Dates
*Van Helsing
Fahrenheit 9/11
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events
*Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story
The Village
The Grudge
Collateral
*The Princess Diaries 2: Royal Engagement
The Aviator
Starsky and Hutch
*Along Came Polly
Mean Girls
Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy
*The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
*Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed
The Notebook
*Alien vs. Predator
Man on Fire
The Terminal
*Garfield: The Movie
Ray
Ladder 49
***Christmas with the Kranks
***White Chicks
Hidalgo
The Forgotten
Kill Bill Vol. 2
The Manchurian Candidate
***Barbershop 2: Back in Business
Million Dollar Baby
Miracle
Sideways
Friday Night Lights
*Hellboy
The Stepford Wives
*Dawn of the Dead
***Without a Paddle
The Butterfly Effect
Shall We Dance
***The Chronicles of Riddick
13 Going on 30

So, to wrap up:

4 of the 5 nominees for BEST PICTURE fall into Ned's category of top 10% grossing. The only one that falls out is Finding Neverland (65 on the year - of course, since it starred two leads and had a screenplay all nominated for Oscars, plus won the score and had at least another nod, it should get cut some slack).

So Ned...first, the qualifications for the Nedscars include almost all Best Pictures nominees, plus "White Chicks", "Without a Paddle", and "Barbershop 2".

That's great logic for the Best Picture...in the Nedaverse!

EDIT: Oh, and to point out, with Ned's qualifications, Eternal Sunshine STILL does NOT get nominated.

PWNED!

[alva]

How come man on fire is never mentioned? Is that movie that old already?
One the best films I saw last year.

[The Emperor Fabulous]

Originally posted by SnowFire
You'll have to go into more detail to defend this.

Here's the defense: Spider-Man II, while a GREAT movie, is not Academy Award material. First, the plot, while great for a comic book adaptation, is not of the quality that many Best Pictures are. I could go into it further, but I'll just say: "I'm Spider-Man...no, I'm not...oh wait, I am", is not a very good storyline for anything but a comic book sequel. Next, the acting was good, but at times melodramatic. Also, the ending was contrived. My big question: Doc Ock suddenly changes and sees good: WHY?! The ending was one of the most "Deus ex Machina" that I've seen.

It was one of my favorite movies this year. It did win Special FX, which it deserved. Artistically, however, (and that's what Academy Awards are given for: art, not entertainment), it doesn't hold a candle to those nominated.

[Dis]

hey don't spoil spiderman 2, I haven't seen it yet. . One of these days I'll get around to watching 2004 movies.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by molly bloom

And at last the acting ability of Cate Blanchett gets recognised- a rather late consolation prize for the Academy's overlooking of her performance in 'Elizabeth'.

Cate could have honestly been nominated for a half dozen roles at least. She's probably the best actress going these days. In fact I wouldn't even say that this role was one of her best, but she won anyway.

[Sikander]

Originally posted by Dissident
What's more important? A unknown actor, or an activist who can fight against a corrupt goverment (I'm exaggerrating Moore's importance, but you get the picture).

To put it another way, what's more important, an actor or a fat guy?

Tough call.