Tennessee judge forcing immigrant mothers to learn English!

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Originally posted by Adagio
AFAIK there's no translaters around this place who can most languages in the world (that is in several translators, not just one)

But the thing is I don't see WHY you should even use translators for people who have lived in some foregn country for 20+ years.
Why did they move to a foreign place if they don't want to try to learn to be able to communicate with the locals... they should at least try to learn it
I don't like the fact that 25% (or probably more) of foreigners who have lived in this city for 20+ years haven't even tried to learn danish.
Because they can't understand danish (or english) they're not able to get a job and if they can't get a job it's the government who has to give them money so they can live, and as you all know it's the taxes we pay that goes to this. I don't see no reason why I should pay money to someone so he/she can live, but wont even try to make it possible to get a job so he/she can pay it back some day

now you know how we feel in the U.S.

but it's not politically correct to say anything about it. So I don't.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Zero-gen immigrants? As in, the parents who stayed in the old country?

No, as in the original immigrants. My parents speak pretty good English, being from a former British colony, but plenty of immigrant parents do not.

If I immigrate to a country, I'm a first generation immigrant. If I have kids that grow up in the new country, they're second generations immigrants. Don't tell my you 'Merkun don't even get the basic terminology right.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Originally posted by lord of the mark
if we really cared about immigrants learning english we'd FUND it.

Yep. That's true. We simply don't, however.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Last Conformist

Don't tell my you 'Merkun don't even get the basic terminology right.

Usually the dumb ignorant 'Merkun slams are taken more seriously when written in the context of good grammar.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Dissident
now you know how we feel in the U.S.

but it's not politically correct to say anything about it. So I don't.

I hate politically correctness

I must hornestly say I don't understand why it's pc, since it's the same "rule" for everybody, like if I move to Italy I have to learn italian, it's not just for people from a certain country to go to a certain country

[Adagio]

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[Ramo]

Not really that is the practical effect of what you are suggesting after all. Requiring at least basic English proficency would improve the status of many immigrants and raise them out of the economic ghettos we currently force them into.

Maybe immigrants are unable to learn basic English because of dire economic need. People who actually care about these peoples' welfare would support the kinds of education programs that lotm is mentioning, rather than forcing them to carry unrealistic burdens.

[Ramo]

No, it's not true... if the government funds it for immigrants then only very few would show up, so it's wasted money unless they force them to go to these classes...

And on what basis do you say that?

[Adagio]

Nah, nevermind, I wanted to delete that post, because now as I re-read the government funding thing I see that I read it the wrong way, so just ignore that post

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by Ramo

Not really that is the practical effect of what you are suggesting after all. Requiring at least basic English proficency would improve the status of many immigrants and raise them out of the economic ghettos we currently force them into.

Maybe immigrants are unable to learn basic English because of dire economic need. People who actually care about these peoples' welfare would support the kinds of education programs that lotm is mentioning, rather than forcing them to carry unrealistic burdens.

I support free English classes for immigrants not only out of concern for those peoples welfare, but out of my American nationalism. Immigrant absorption is important for our national strength.

[Odin]

I think immigrants should be required to take a free english class before they can become US citizens.

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Originally posted by Odin
I think immigrants should be required to take a free english class before they can become US citizens.

why would they want to become citizens?

that isn't necessary.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by Datajack Franit
Hello?? You live in my country, at least learn the ****ing language!

No I don't.

[Datajack Franit]

So don't complain if you get a disease and you're not able to express yourself at the hospital

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Originally posted by Datajack Franit
So don't complain if you get a disease and you're not able to express yourself at the hospital

wrong answer, lawsuits (and increased business) are why many businesses in my city has to have bilingual employees.