Alan Keyes' Irony

[Berzerker]

Where is this irony? Keyes didn't just find out his daughter is a lesbian and his reaction is consistent with his opinion of Mary Cheney...

[Odin]

Originally posted by Wycoff


The Dems aren't that much different from the Repubs economically. Maybe if they were, social/moral issues wouldn't be such a big deal.

The Dems want a nice, proper welfare state like every other civilized western nation. the Republicans want a Corporate Republic (like the one in CtP).

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Odin
The Dems want a nice, proper welfare state like every other civilized western nation. the Republicans want a Corporate Republic (like the one in CtP).

Maybe if they did they could have won on Ohio. The Dems haven't been particulalry strong with job creation; the unions still remember that Clinton was the NAFTA president. Kerry never campaigned for universal healthcare. No one really pushes for more public works/public infra-structure type projectsFrom everything I've observed, the Dems are Republicans-Lite on economics. That makes their economic programs easy targets for Republican candidates, because at least Republicans can use the Tax-cutting rhetoric.

That makes social issues that much more important politically, as that's where the two parties are most different. Thus, I think that the importance of social issues are inlated. If the Dems downplayed their social issues (like Gavin Newsome and his Gay Marriages), while taking economic stances that were clearly inline with the needs of the lower middle class and bottom class people, then the Dems. would win elections. Instead, the Dems try to appeal to the same upper middle class voters to which the Repubs appeal. They ignore/ chastise the lower, rural clases, while the Repubs at least make a social appeal to them. That's why the Dems can't win the Appalachians or Ohio. Unless they change their economic programs, they may lose PA and MI.

If we had a proportional system, a Perot like socially conservative, economically nationalist/populist party would win at least 25-30% of the votes. The reason that most of the swing states are swing states is that neither party adequately fills that need; therefore, parties that don't really fit have to compete to win voters who don't fully buy into them.

[Berzerker]

For years the GOP blasted the Dems for spending too much, but all along their rhetoric was deceitful. Reagan never vetoed a bloated budget and now Bush has failed to veto any spending bill - the 2 "conservative" icons were/are very liberal spending other people's money. The "free lunch" mentality wins elections until bankruptcy approaches and that leaves "social issues" which are based on anger and hatred, often religiously inspired - Taliban-lite.

The Dems lean toward socialism and the GOP leans toward fascism. Combine these two and you end up with less economic and personal freedom and political correctness run amok.