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my position exactly.
my position exactly.
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Yep, and have the settlements be ultimately under the soveriengty of Palestine.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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You're just kidding, right?Originally posted by Kamrat X
You are trolling, right?Comment
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Yep, and have the settlements be ultimately under the soveriengty of Palestine.
Yep, provided, of course, the settlers are allowed citizenship.Comment
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This is true in the vast majority of cases. There are is a small extremist population among them, but most settlers are not. Most are right-wing, yes, but they aren't facists. There is a very large gap between right-wing and facist, and the mainstream settler movement is certainly not the latter. As I said before, there are Kahanists (which might be compared to a 'Jewish KKK'), but these are quite a small proportion of the population in general.Hmm. I was led to believe that most of the settlers were relatively harmless commuters, not the crazed 'I'm raising my kids to kill Arabs' types."You say that it is your custom to burn widows. Very well. We also have a custom: when men burn a woman alive, we tie a rope around their necks and we hang them. Build your funeral pyre; beside it, my carpenters will build a gallows. You may follow your custom. And then we will follow ours."--General Sir Charles James NapierComment
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Of course, but how likely do you think it would be that settlement people would accept Palestinian citizenship?Originally posted by Azazel
Yep, and have the settlements be ultimately under the soveriengty of Palestine.
Yep, provided, of course, the settlers are allowed citizenship.
“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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Most probably wouldn't, but some might:Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Of course, but how likely do you think it would be that settlement people would accept Palestinian citizenship?
A founding member of a Gaza Strip settlement said Monday that he and other residents of his northern Gaza enclave were prepared to live under Palestinian rule and even vote for the Palestinian parliament, if they were allowed to remain in their present homes.Referring to Israeli Arab members of Knesset, Farah told Army Radio that "Ahmed Tibi and Azmi Bishara live in peace and quiet in the state of Israel. There's no reason why Jews can't live under Palestinian sovereignty. We must be creative."
Doesn't explicitly state that they would be accepting citizenship, but it does sound like it.
BTW, IIRC, one of the possibilities the vague Saudi Plan from a few years back considered was allowing settlers to stay under Palestinian soverenty.Last edited by Edan; February 25, 2005, 02:15."I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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I've always wondered how viable a palestinian state would be. Israel seems to have the majority of the territory in Palestine. What kind of resources do the Palestinians have in their territories?Comment
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A founding member of a Gaza Strip settlement said Monday that he and other residents of his northern Gaza enclave were prepared to live under Palestinian rule and even vote for the Palestinian parliament, if they were allowed to remain in their present homes.
That's the first smart thing that anyone in that region of the world has said for years. If they could pull this off I couldn't think of a better poster for reconciliation.Only feebs vote.Comment
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Seems to me the settlements should be "at your own risk." It's my understanding many of them arose without government sanction anyway, correct? So Israel can issue a stern warning to them to leave and offer to help resettle them elsewhere, but they shouldn't force them to leave.
But, then the IDF won't be responsible for protecting anyone who chooses to remain. So if the settlers don't want to be at the mercy of the PA, they'll either have to leave or be in charge of defending themselves.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
-BokononComment
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actually, most of the ideological settlers support such a solution as well... how will it end, however, I don't know. I actually think they will claim independence...Comment
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Hm,Originally posted by Azazel
There are no resources in this land. It's all man-built.
aren´t Israels main sources of freshwater part of the westbank?
(and would fall into the control of a palestinian state if Israel left the whole territory of the westbank to the palestinians?)Tamsin (Lost Girl): "I am the Harbinger of Death. I arrive on winds of blessed air. Air that you no longer deserve."
Tamsin (Lost Girl): "He has fallen in battle and I must take him to the Einherjar in Valhalla"Comment
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Hm,
aren´t Israels main sources of freshwater part of the westbank?
(and would fall into the control of a palestinian state if Israel left the whole territory of the westbank to the palestinians?)
No, except the blood of palestinian babies.
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The main source of water in Israel is the Galilee sea, that doesn't even border the West bank or gaza. The other sources: The shore aquifer which is under Israel, and the mountain aquifer, which is under Israel and the west bank. We're also about to produce desalinized water on an industrial scale. We are hardly dependant on palestinian water, as some would like to say.Last edited by Az; February 25, 2005, 06:10.Comment
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