Israel's Coming Civil War

[The Mad Monk]

It hasn't been all that ongoing since Arafat died. Didn't Sharon preside over the dismantaling of a settlement a short time ago?

[muxec]

When soldiers prepare for mass disobeying of orders it means that the country is in real trouble.

[Last Conformist]

Originally posted by Space05us
Doesnt the "the ongoing bloody confrontation with the Palestinians" qualify as a civil war?

I'd not think so.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Space05us
Doesnt the "the ongoing bloody confrontation with the Palestinians" qualify as a civil war?

No.

[Fake Boris]

Which leaves me wondering, which fundies are more dangerous, those with F-16s and nuclear weapons or those with AK-47s?

[Kuciwalker]

Look at their actions.

[Imran Siddiqui]

Yes, that is a politically and morally valid strategy. Leaving your citizens and country men to be slaughtered by your enemies, because they attempted, in their eyes, to defend the country from 'doom'.

As LC said, if the citizens are occupying a terrority that the government says it has no authority over and requires them to leave for greater government good, why should they expect government protection? They are directly sabatoging governmental policy at that point.

Have 'em face off with the Pal extremists and bring the popcorn .

[Fake Boris]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Look at their actions.

Yes. What do you see?

[Kuciwalker]

The ones with AK's (and, incidentally, homemade bombs) decide to deliberately blow up buses and restaraunts full of innocents, whereas the ones with F-16's tend to actual target combatants...

[Zoid]

And if a few innocent bystanders gets wiped out in the process? Well, they shouldn´t have been there in the first place, now should they?

I´m not condoning terrorism, but the "clean strikes" by the IDF isn´t that clean either...

[Az]

Actually, they're very clean, given the conditions, with no clear military targets.


With regards to the OT: I say let anyone who wants to stay there stay. It's just as unfair to uproot people who lived there for 20 years, as it is unfair to uproot palestinians. They can arrange their own militia, and defend themselves. Why the hell is it so important that the lands the palestinians get are jew-free?

But this is only my position on the issue: I don't support refusing to obey the law, or directly disobeying it.

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Kamrat X
And if a few innocent bystanders gets wiped out in the process? Well, they shouldn´t have been there in the first place, now should they?

Did you miss the word "compare"?

Compared to deliberately blowing up buses and restaraunts full of civilians, the Israeli's aren't anything but sweetness and light.

[DeathByTheSword]

maybe this has come up ones before...but what is the state tells the settlers evac with us to isreal or stay behind and not have the protection of the IDF? ok you will get a power vacuum and laying seeds for further conflict between settlers, isreal and any arab country....but according to the sate of isreal the settlers are being evaced because they live in places that isnt part of isreal...

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Did you miss the word "compare"?

Compared to deliberately blowing up buses and restaraunts full of civilians, the Israeli's aren't anything but sweetness and light.

You are trolling, right?

[Last Conformist]

I don't know if he's trolling, but I agree with what he's saying; compared to deliberately targeting civilians killing civilians as "collateral damage" is nice.