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  • #31
    What a bunch of bull**** propaganda designed to ready the waters for another military build up. The US need enemies. It can't survive without them. The end looks near anyway. Another Cold War won't save the US.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Wezil
      Perhaps Europe would be happier with China as the world's policeman?
      Looks that way. Even Supercitizen seems to caught up in the feeling.
      I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
      For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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      • #33
        At least they make good food.
        "On this ship you'll refer to me as idiot, not you captain!"
        - Lone Star

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        • #34
          But you're hungry again an hour later.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
          For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Jaakko
            At least they make good food.
            and pizza is not good food?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Dissident
              and pizza is not good food?
              Italian domination would be much better.
              Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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              • #37
                The Chinese have a right to buy weapons and the stuff the EU will be selling won't be that different from what the Russians are already selling. We should all sell to the Chinese and just make sure the US/UK holds back the very latest stuff for our own forces. It won't hurt to keep helping Taiwan so that some sort of rough detante is maintained.

                Historically, developing countries which invested big in the military have been losers. Latin America, Africa, and the (non-oil producing middle east) all spent big on weapons instead of schools and modernization and they paid the price in the form of lower growth, lack of resources for social problems, and higher national debt. As long as we invest enough in our military and maintain alliances then war can be detered & money made off the Chinese.
                Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                • #38
                  What a stupid, innane article.

                  And who wrote the title to that anyways? Was it the journalist or you DinoDoc? Whoever it was, I find it funny how fast whatever Bush says enters into the lexicon of every right wing idiot there is.

                  Bush says the US and EU are an "alliance" (12 times in the speech yesterday) and now suddenly its true.

                  But listen Dino. Why shouldn't the EU be able to sell China arms? What are they going to do with them besides equip their army, the same thing the US does. Only wacko right wing politicos and armchair pundits see China as anything but a commercial threat. They're not invading anyone. They couldn't even invade Taiwan for Christ's sake.

                  Get real, and keep on chasing those ghosts.

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                  • #39
                    DD, not really, the article was pure BS and one of the most dangerous articles I've read in my life. If you like Hitler speech, then it's ok, but if not, then there's plenty wrong in it. I don't want China to rule the world, but then agian I don't want the current US to rule the world either. It needs to change back to what it was, the cool country, now it looks more like China. You've been decepted.
                    In da butt.
                    "Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
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                    • #40
                      to Europe. I don't want another f*cking cold war, especially with a country with over 4 times as many people as my country. The only way in hell that I would sell the Chinese weapons is if they become a democracy.

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                      • #41
                        If China is so bad, how come the US has so much trade with them?
                        To us, it is the BEAST.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Sava
                          If China is so bad, how come the US has so much trade with them?
                          because the republican party serves big business before they serve the american public.

                          businesses save money by using chinese made products, and trade with china.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Dissident


                            because the republican party serves big business before they serve the american public.

                            businesses save money by using chinese made products, and trade with china.
                            THE REPUBLICANS ARE EVIL COMMIE-LOVING TRATORS!

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                            • #44
                              Everybody should cool down on this one. This article is full of BS and is either a great troll or pure propaganda (read: lies) of dumb blond intellectual level (= Ann Coulter).
                              No NATO nation is allowed to sell anything to non-NATO countries without the agreement of the others.
                              It's part of NATO contract.
                              "U.S. soldiers would find themselves going up against an adversary armed with NATO technology. " is PURE B.S.

                              The problem I have with that kind of BS (or troll?) is that there ARE people to believe it.

                              I wouldn't use this article even as toilet paper, as I prefer paper with no sh!t already on it for my own @$$.

                              If it is not a troll, its probably only anti-european american right-wing propaganda, based on ... on ... yeah, based on what?.
                              The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Pekka
                                DD, not really, the article was pure BS ...
                                Everyone is saying that but no one so far has provided a cogent reason why aiding a totalitarian, anti-democratic state against a free, deomcratic state makes either political or strategic sense for Europe?
                                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                                For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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