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  • #16
    Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
    You think that's screwed up? Around here we have a holiday known as "Lee - Jackson - King Day" in honor of Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and Martin Luther King. This bizarre combination came as a duboius consession to black Virginians. A few years ago the Virginia legislature couldn't bring itself to give Rev. King his own holiday so they crammed him into the already existing combo holiday set aside for Virginia's two greatest Civil War heros.
    wtf

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    • #17
      Originally posted by The Mad Monk
      If it's any comfort, car dealers still remember Washington and Lincoln's birthdays, if the commercials are anything to go by.
      Yes, as do mattress salesmen. God bless our true patriots.
      "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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      • #18
        Meh, a day off is a day off.


        Yes, but the point is we used to get TWO days off .
        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
          You think that's screwed up? Around here we have a holiday known as "Lee - Jackson - King Day" in honor of Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and Martin Luther King. This bizarre combination came as a duboius consession to black Virginians. A few years ago the Virginia legislature couldn't bring itself to give Rev. King his own holiday so they crammed him into the already existing combo holiday set aside for Virginia's two greatest Civil War heros.
          Fortunately, I seem to remember them realizing the bogusness of that, and now, I believe, it is MLK day. Alternatively, it may have just been a cultural thing, with my town not acknowledging the name of the actual legal holiday.
          "Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - Elok

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          • #20
            Fortunately, I seem to remember them realizing the bogusness of that, and now, I believe, it is MLK day. Alternatively, it may have just been a cultural thing, with my town not acknowledging the name of the actual legal holiday.
            Fortunetly, you are wrong. It is still celebrated like that in Virginia, and no one here gives a damn. If your not an MLK fan, celebrate the other. Not a civil war buff, celebrate MLK day. If you are not woefully in the jaws of a fanatical political/cultural POV and are mature enough to see virtues in all three of those persons, celebrate both.

            I celebrate both
            "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Patroklos


              Fortunetly, you are wrong. It is still celebrated like that in Virginia, and no one here gives a damn. If your not an MLK fan, celebrate the other. Not a civil war buff, celebrate MLK day. If you are not woefully in the jaws of a fanatical political/cultural POV and are mature enough to see virtues in all three of those persons, celebrate both.

              I celebrate both
              I used to live in Charlottesville, and feel that I had a grasp on the tenor of the community, which was distinctly pro-MLK, and anti the inclusion of Jackson and Lee. (of course, according to our state senator, we are the People's Republic of Charlottesville, so what do we know?).
              However, even given the general support of the holiday, it is still bogus. I have studied the civil war, and personally believe that Lee was a moral man, who did not approve of slavery, but felt that he must fight for his state. I respect that. But he was the greatest threat to the restauration of the union, and that should not be celebrated. It is akin to Germany celebrating the skill of Rommel, or Guderian, both military geniuses, but not deserving of state recognition due to the regime they served. The South deserved to lose the civil war. However much people want to construe the civil war to be primarily about state's right's, the main impetuous of the civil war was the threat of an end to slavery. Even if Lee did have moral qualms about the civil war (I do not recall Jackson's position on slavery, but the same applies), he fought for the South. Bear in mind that Rommel was connected with the plot to kill Hitler in '44.
              And finally, with regards to slavery, I am a fanatic. And I am proud of it.
              "Remember, there's good stuff in American culture, too. It's just that by "good stuff" we mean "attacking the French," and Germany's been doing that for ages now, so, well, where does that leave us?" - Elok

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              • #22
                You think that's screwed up? Around here we have a holiday known as "Lee - Jackson - King Day" in honor of Robert E. Lee, Stonewall Jackson, and Martin Luther King. This bizarre combination came as a duboius consession to black Virginians. A few years ago the Virginia legislature couldn't bring itself to give Rev. King his own holiday so they crammed him into the already existing combo holiday set aside for Virginia's two greatest Civil War heros.
                In Arkansas, the 3rd Monday of January (or whatever the day for MLKJr Day is) is officially entitled "Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and
                Robert E. Lee’s Birthdays". I've never actually heard anyone refer to it solely as "Robert E Lee Day" but once or twice in common conversation I did actually hear "MLK Jr and Robert E Lee Day".

                In addition, President's Day is celebrated as it should be, "George Washington’s Birthday and
                Daisy Gatson Bates Day" (Daisy Bates, IIRC, being some important leader for the Little Rock Nine.) None of this "President's Day" hoopla.
                meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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                • #23
                  I don't see why Arkansas celebrates Lee's birthday, surely they had a few generals of their own.
                  "The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.

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                  • #24
                    You should all celebrate Victoria Day!
                    "Wait a minute..this isn''t FAUX dive, it's just a DIVE!"
                    "...Mangy dog staggering about, looking vainly for a place to die."
                    "sauna stories? There are no 'sauna stories'.. I mean.. sauna is sauna. You do by the laws of sauna." -P.

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                    • #25
                      "This is why I hate "Presidents Day"... "

                      "Presidents Day" is a myth, there is no such in the fedearal holiday statute. The only statutory designation for the 3rd Monday of February is "Washington's Birthday", no Lincoln, no other president honored or even mentioned in the law for such holiday, Just Washington. By the way, with goverment efficiancy they made sure that the Washington's Birthday holiday could never actually fall on his birthday Feb 22, the lastest the 3rd Monday in Feb can be is Feb 21. Deez, you yahoos even need a lawyer to tell you what holiday it is.
                      Gaius Mucius Scaevola Sinistra
                      Japher: "crap, did I just post in this thread?"
                      "Bloody hell, Lefty.....number one in my list of persons I have no intention of annoying, ever." Bugs ****ing Bunny
                      From a 6th grader who readily adpated to internet culture: "Pay attention now, because your opinions suck"

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                      • #26
                        Presidents day is about SI swimsuit photo shoots, you have no idea what you are talking about man.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                          "This is why I hate "Presidents Day"... "

                          "Presidents Day" is a myth, there is no such in the fedearal holiday statute. The only statutory designation for the 3rd Monday of February is "Washington's Birthday", no Lincoln, no other president honored or even mentioned in the law for such holiday, Just Washington. By the way, with goverment efficiancy they made sure that the Washington's Birthday holiday could never actually fall on his birthday Feb 22, the lastest the 3rd Monday in Feb can be is Feb 21. Deez, you yahoos even need a lawyer to tell you what holiday it is.
                          own goal. you know this as well as i do.
                          I wasn't born with enough middle fingers.
                          [Brandon Roderick? You mean Brock's Toadie?][Hanged from Yggdrasil]

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola
                            "This is why I hate "Presidents Day"... "

                            "Presidents Day" is a myth, there is no such in the fedearal holiday statute. The only statutory designation for the 3rd Monday of February is "Washington's Birthday", no Lincoln, no other president honored or even mentioned in the law for such holiday, Just Washington. By the way, with goverment efficiancy they made sure that the Washington's Birthday holiday could never actually fall on his birthday Feb 22, the lastest the 3rd Monday in Feb can be is Feb 21. Deez, you yahoos even need a lawyer to tell you what holiday it is.
                            Please do tell: what the f*ck crawled up your ass and died?

                            In 1968, Congress passed the Monday Holidays Act, which moved the official observance of Washington's birthday from Feb. 22 to the third Monday in February. Some reformers had wanted to change the name of the holiday as well, to Presidents' Day, in honor of both Lincoln and Washington, but that proposal was rejected by Congress, and the holiday remained officially Washington's Birthday.

                            But in 1971, when the Act went into effect, President Nixon proclaimed the holiday as Presidents' Day, to commemorate all past presidents, not just Lincoln and Washington. This idea was never intended or authorized by Congress; nevertheless, it gained a strong hold on the public consciousness.
                            Presidents' Day or Washington's Birthday?
                            http://www.infoplease.com/spot/washington1.html
                            Presidents' Day or Washington's Birthday? A celebration in honor of one (or two) of the greatest presidents.


                            Congrats on being technically correct, wrong about the larger issue, and quite the pompous ass. Well done, sir.
                            "I have as much authority as the pope. I just don't have as many people who believe it." — George Carlin

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                            • #29
                              Lefty
                              KH FOR OWNER!
                              ASHER FOR CEO!!
                              GUYNEMER FOR OT MOD!!!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Pekka
                                Hey, at least Ronald McDonald didn't get in the top10..
                                Not this year anyway.
                                He's got the Midas touch.
                                But he touched it too much!
                                Hey Goldmember, Hey Goldmember!

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