Swedish hockeyplayers rape 22 year old woman

[Dis]

Originally posted by Kamrat X
Diss, they were aquitted beacuse... wait for it... the girl was too drunk to remember much. And by the current swedish law it´s her own fault if she gets in trouble after drinking too much alcohol.

Winston, I wasn´t aware that this was a site for world news...

women have lied about these things before. You are saying you believe the women over the men?

I'm not defending the men here. I have no idea what happened.

[Zoid]

Well, it is a bit tabloid. But I´m bored, so I post threads But by all means, feel free to start threads on prostitution and pornography

[Dis]

Originally posted by laurentius
Its just...we have had quite a few of these raping topics here already...

This is tabloid stuff really, the same **** we are being fed up by the yellow press every ****ing day.

"OMG Tommy Salo had sex with 4 underage monkeys"

"Mobs gather up to lych Salo"

"Salo flees to Finland"

"Salo get a job at the Helsinki Zoo"

Cant we talk about something else for a change?For example why is prostitution still illegal if people get so worked out by rapings? Why is sex for money a taboo in our society? Why is it so negative? And at the same time why has the paid sex industry evolved into something as twisted as pornography?

it's oppressive towards women. even the legal brothels.

[Winston]

I have to say, this is the closest I've ever felt to being in agreement with laurentius. It's a bit like last year when Mars and Earth were closer to each other than at any time in the past 60,000 years or something.

So at least this thread wasn't totally wasted.

[laurentius]

Men can be prostitutes too. And grown people can make their own decicions without someone moralising them. Its not lethal, it might help reduce rapings. Its a job.

Individual success obsessed capitalistic society is oppressive towards humans by definition anyway.

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by Dissident


women have lied about these things before. You are saying you believe the women over the men?

I'm not defending the men here. I have no idea what happened.

The point is it doesn't matter whether you are guilty or not, you will get away with it in court but you will be guilty in the media

[Zoid]

Originally posted by Dissident


women have lied about these things before. You are saying you believe the women over the men?

I'm not defending the men here. I have no idea what happened.

Well, it is possible that she could´ve made it up. That happens. But the players confirmed on a press conference that they took her to the hotel and then had sex with her. If it was voluntary on her part is the question.

[Last Conformist]

Why isn't this worth of a 'Poly thread when the Motala case was? No-one asked "Why should we care" then.

[laurentius]

Originally posted by Kamrat X
Well, it is a bit tabloid. But I´m bored, so I post threads But by all means, feel free to start threads on prostitution and pornography

Nah, I'm not that interested in that subject. But at least we could make this thread useful by discussing the reasons behind this kind of crime instead of shooting banalities like "OMG This is horrible!" "Our justice system sux0rs" or "I hope he ****ing dies"

No offense intended, just speaking out what I think.

[Footie Mad]

The solidarity in the gathering of money to help the girl with legal proceedings in the Motala case is treadworthy I think.

[laurentius]

Who is/was Motala?

[Combat Ingrid]

The Motala case was a 13-year old girl raped by a bunch of Kurds, aged 16-30 IIRC, and as usual they got away with it because they made her drunk before they raped her. It was therefore her own fault.

[laurentius]

Ah yes it was one of the rape-threads we have been having...

[Zoid]

Here you go, Laurentius

I think the reasons behind rape is that we live in a patriarchy. A male society, that treats women like commoditys that can be bought and sold at the wim of males. And that´s why some men can´t take no for an answer. The woman is inferior and should please the man and do his bidding, she can´t say no. It doesn´t compute, so to speak.

Another explanation (that doesn´t exclude the first one) is that alltough we live in a male society it´s a society with strict hierachys even for males. And when you´re unemployed and or shunned by society as a whole (like many immigrants, especially muslim ones, are) then it´s easy to loose touch on ordinary human behaviour and gang rape someone. I think it´s a way to get back at society and to boost your own ego.

Or does this sound like loony left wing feminist crap?

[Last Conformist]

It can't have been wholly her fault, since two of the guys were sentenced for sexual abuse, and the two others were freed because it couldn't be demonstrated to satisfaction that they'd actually had sexual intercourse with the girl.