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  • #31
    Turn it into Babylon 5.
    "Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Ted Striker

      What's section 31?
      From memory that was a secretive section of Starfleet that specialised in Black Ops and was essentially above the law - above and beyond most of the more shadowy aspects of CIA during its heyday.
      IIRC it was introduced in the mid-seasons of DS9.

      I thought it was a great concept in principle but unfortunately most of the episodes seemed to revolve around the particularly irritating doctor playing at being a superspy.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Ted Striker




        What's section 31?
        The Federation's top secret covert operations organization that wasn't answerable to anyone. They were featured in several episodes of DS9.
        "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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        • #34
          Now that sounds bad azz!!!!


          Section 31.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #35
            Section 31 ~ Tal Shiar ~ Obsidian Order.

            B♭3

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            • #36
              Star Trek: Secret Wars?
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #37
                I say push the timeline into the future 50 years past Voyager/DS9. That way the writers get rid of the crutch of having old cast members re-appear and can advance the story without violating the Star Trek "canon". There's plenty of Universe left to explore (One more quadrant, right?).
                If you look around and think everyone else is an *******, you're the *******.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Timexwatch
                  I say push the timeline into the future 50 years past Voyager/DS9. That way the writers get rid of the crutch of having old cast members re-appear and can advance the story without violating the Star Trek "canon".
                  Yeah, that'll stop them....



                  "I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie Allen

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                  • #39
                    I have trouble imaging a show about section 31, the org was sooo dicredited in DS9....

                    About big battles -I love to see them to, but they shouldn't overdo it, IMO the development of the scale of space battles was reasonable in Enterprise (although I have to say we are currently at the third seaon here). Anyway, lots of big battles all the time and from the start of a series could become boring too. Space battles should become gradually bigger to the end of a show IMO.
                    Most important IMO isn't to have hundreds of ships participating, but how good space fighting is made in the end (fx, "camera" movement, cuts etc.).
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                    • #40
                      Get rid of english speaking, bipedal, costume wearing aliens.

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                      • #41
                        I'm not sure the success of a scifi show is proportional to the number of legs those aliens have
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                        • #42
                          Hm, the latest StarTrek series was/is (?) definately far superior to its predecessors. The music theme, though subject to criticism from today´s techno/metal/punk youth, is IMO a highlight in the new concept!

                          It lines out what the show is about: A new era is about to begin, mankind takes the first steps in leaving the cradle that is earth! The crew is "green" in terms of alien contact, which is always a big PLUS, the technology is not that far advanced compared to TNG, all in all the whole series is more plausible

                          Now I don´t know whether that will change during the later seasons, since it´s relatively new here in Europe, but what I have seen so far is the best StarTrek ever

                          Scott Bakula is great as captain, he has that "kirk touch" but still creates an individual feel to it. Jolene Blalock (the Vulcan chick), as outlined before, is a perfect Number One in both looks and acting
                          Also most of the other actors fit perfectly into the setting, adding lots of different perspektives

                          Of course seeing a captain work in the slave mines of some brutal alien race is another step "back to the roots", creating a more human aura to the captain´s figure. (Who could imagine old Picard performing slave labour? )

                          Younger actors -> more action, less static episodes ->

                          (Although Captain Jonathan Archer is 51 )
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                          • #43
                            I'm not sure the success of a scifi show is proportional to the number of legs those aliens have
                            Oh, c'mon. Dont you grow tired of those cheap costumes and the make up those "perfect english" speaking aliens wear?

                            We want some intelligent french speaking star traveling lava spitting rock formations!!!

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Daz

                              Oh, c'mon. Dont you grow tired of those cheap costumes and the make up those "perfect english" speaking aliens wear?
                              Yes

                              I just think the reason why they are used so often is exactly that they are cheap....budget questions.
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Daz
                                Get rid of english speaking, bipedal, costume wearing aliens.
                                You want naked quadrupedal Swahili speaking aliens?

                                With or without compulsory Kirk snogging scenes?

                                (Noises off as molly projectile vomits)
                                Vive la liberte. Noor Inayat Khan, Dachau.

                                ...patriotism is not enough. I must have no hatred or bitterness towards anyone. Edith Cavell, 1915

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