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  • #76
    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
    That's the point, Imran. Keeping the Gerome Iginla's and Mark Messier's here, let alone seeing the Jeff Beukebooms go elsewhere because even they can command a stupid level of salary.


    Like I said, Mess leaves anyway because the Oilers are losing money hand over fist and decide they can't keep him and pay him the (LESSER) salary he'd command. He'd still be gone without comprehensive revenue sharing.
    No, like you pulled out of your ass to keep the argument going.

    You have still not explained how the top 8 or 10 teams having to cut their payrolls will lead to a drain from the other teams.
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    • #77
      I agree with you, NYE.

      Except...

      The Oilers owners are sane.


      ... the fact that they hired Cory Cross speaks against this statement.
      Only feebs vote.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Agathon
        I agree with you, NYE.

        Except...

        The Oilers owners are sane.


        ... the fact that they hired Cory Cross speaks against this statement.
        You have me on that one. My only defence for it would be that the GM did it, not the owners.

        Of course the GM is Kevin Lowe, and he is supposed to know better.

        Oh, and he's a good ol' boy from Lloyd. That must make it alright.
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        • #79
          I saw Cory Cross in Loblaws once. He's an ugly streak of a man.
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          • #80
            He's from Lloyd and he can play hockey, sort of. What do you want? Eric Cantonna?
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            • #81
              Someone that doesn't look and play like Plastic Man from the Fantastic Four.

              Or if that is necessary, someone who does, but is actually good.
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              • #82
                But he's from Lloyd!
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                • #83
                  The TV money is gone. This used to be the one thing that was shared equally between the teams. Teams that cannot afford to pay out the entire cap will lose players. Perhaps not as many (or even their best player), but they will still lose players and not have as much depth as teams that can afford to pay the full salary cap. That lack of depth will show up during a full season and those teams will tend not to be as competitive and will tend to not win championships.
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                  • #84
                    Quite right, pchang. We've seen it with basketball, where having a cap couldn't save the Vancouver Grizzlies and Charlotte Hornets, who both had to move because they were losing gobs of money.

                    I don't think the hockey people on this thread realize that a cap by itself isn't going to fix the issues that the teams losing money are facing.
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                    • #85
                      This Hockey season is muerte. News at 1:00PM EST. According to the Sharks CEO, the average salary last year was about $1.8 million which amounts to an average salary per team of a bit less than $43million. Thus, the owner's proposal of a $42.5 million cap. Can anyone confirm these numbers?
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                      • #86
                        This is an interesting read. Note the huge discrepancy in team payrolls.



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                        • #87
                          It still makes me incredibly happy to know that a team with a total payroll of $33M took down a team like Detroit, in 6 games, with a payrol of $77.8M.
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Asher
                            It still makes me incredibly happy to know that a team with a total payroll of $33M took down a team like Detroit, in 6 games, with a payrol of $77.8M.
                            Actually, I think it's even better that the Rangers can have a payroll of $77 million and be league doormats.
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                            • #89
                              BTW: Did anyone hear the radio clip from the Dallas Stars owner yesterday? He said that there would be hockey in Dallas next year, he just didn't know who would be playing for him.
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                              • #90
                                Game Over: NHL cancels season

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