FemNazis are at it again!

[Pekka]

This time they blame men about EVERYTHING.

This program is still going on on TV, it's a debate/discussion about women and men and business life.

The did a study about students, and while femnazis have claimed women to be more ambitious and all that, but it's men who has been dominating the business and the top spots and thus blocked women to rise. Before they showed the study, the debators were agreeing on this. Without a study.

The study found out, that women had LESS drive in top spots, and less plans. It was the men who had long term plans while women.. didn't. Men had far more greater ambition to want to be in upper managment of any business, while only 10% of women dreamed about it. Same goes with negotiating your salary, and everything else. Now remember, this is students. These are people who have not yet been in the business life. And yes it was a business school.

Now that the study was revealed to the debaters, the femnazis were little upset about the result, and quickly said 'well, this is because women are realists.'. THIS STUDY WAS ABOUT AMBITION YOU STUPID ****! LISTEN!!! No wonder she never got anywhere with her life, because she can't even comprehend anything. ANd of course, it was because of men. Men had oppressed the girl students from birth, so they don't even try. MUAEHEAHEHAE!!! What a stupid ****! higher degree students... what's that.. more women are going for it than men. And yet they want to do less with that degree than men.. Hey if you never try, you won't be asked to lead a business. No one will call you and say 'listen we want you, now please lead us'.

This of course, all fault of men. I'm telling you, competent women will always keep rocking, but these excuse finding femnazis should look in the mirror. And OMG this same ***** keeps on bringing outrageous claims. This woman should be executed in the market square.

If someone puts down women, it's these FemNazis. Competent women never find excuses. They go and win. They don't need this femnazis represnting them, I say they do more harm to the image of these true business women.
Besides, we don't live in Afghanistan. ****, men have less rights and less space than anything else these days. And this is why my message is, FemNazis do not want equality. They want it all. But while it's up to me, it's not going to happen. Competent people will go on winning, gender nto playing a part in it.

[Dis]

this may be true, but women still make less money than men.

[Japher]

let 'em whine.

as long as they are complaining they aren't working.

[St Leo]

I find the allusion to the Third Reich offensive on several counts.

[Pekka]

Diss, that was not the issue on this thread, while it is true.

Japher, yeah it's not that they're complaining.. it's that they have these front organisations, FemSS. You know they have the right to **** you up because of your gender. You know, they're aggressive, nasty and wrong. And if you say anything bad about them, you're a woman hater. Pussified femvictims in here would say well look at what you just wrote. I said only bad about femSS. And that women with ambition and drive will keep ruling and getting top spots, or at least they should.

They make it a gender issue. If it was about equality, we would want to abolish the gender issue. Buit it isn't, since it's brought up all the time.

Then there was an issue of women being pregnant and that's hard time to find a job. WELL YEAH? IMAGINE THAT! That's not a woman issue, it's nto a pregnant issue, it's YOUR ASS BEING IN HOME FOR SEVERAL MONTHS SOON!

WTF Is wrong with these people, and people who submit in front of them. They are highly offensive and men can punch them in bellies because they are stupid and asking for it and we should give femSS equality in those terms as well, because in men world you get your ass kicked for saying **** like that without backing it up.

[Verto]

Originally posted by St Leo
I find the allusion to the Third Reich offensive on several counts.

You're right. Now need to drag the Nazis down by associating them with these wackos.

[Combat Ingrid]

I have a story here that Pekka might enjoy

There was a book about equality that had an article cencored because it hinted at the biological differences between male and female human brains. The local government in Norrbotten decided that the text had to be removed if the book was to be published, because they (the social democrats) had already decided there are no biological differences between male and female brains, it's all a social construct

Link to the cencored article (in Swedish): http://www.kuriren.nu/default.asp?Ta...D=2&ClientID=0

[lord of the mark]

Originally posted by St Leo
I find the allusion to the Third Reich offensive on several counts.

I agree.

[Last Conformist]

The book was published by the local gov't itself IIRC, so it wasn't censorship per se, just a really interesting demonstration of the tendency of the politosphere to consider ideology more important than science.

I recently read a piece on said biological differences, actually, in one of my sister's neuroscience books. One kind of got the impression that men got the harsher deal.

[Kidlicious]

So men are more motivated to ask for bigger salaries and step on heads. This means they deserve more? I think not.

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by Last Conformist
The book was published by the local gov't itself IIRC, so it wasn't censorship per se, just a really interesting demonstration of the tendency of the politosphere to consider ideology more important than science.

There was also this case a couple of years ago when a sociologist studied whether boys and girls chose to play with different toys. She hoped to prove that there was no difference in toy preference, but she was forced to conclude that the kids tended to choose toys according to the stereotypes.

Needless to say, she got in trouble for these results. My favourite comment was someone who said that this kind of research should not be performed at all. "Because it harms vital political interests"

[Last Conformist]

No, but it means they get more, which is kind of the issue.

[Kidlicious]

Pekka,

Maybe there is something you don't understand. Your value to society has very little to do with how self-interested you are. Some men only care about themselves. Their own career is all that matters. They don't spend time with their families. They leave all that to their wives. Why do you think that this means they are better than women and other people?

[Elok]

I'm not sure that he is in fact arguing that they are better than women, only that "Feminazis" (I agree, somebody sic Godwin on Pekka) are quick to patch any holes in their theories by blaming them on men in a different way than they were before. The study does not prove what we believe to be true, therefore it proves something else favorable to our cause. Or something. That's hardly unique to feminists though. Just about everyone on earth does it to some extent.

TBH I'm not sure how much good talking about such problems is doing. Militance tends to have a Black Panther effect, as shown here; people reply, "you know, I never wanted to beat and abuse Your People, and I still don't, but I'd really like to beat and abuse you specifically for being such a whiny twit."

[Kidlicious]

I think the feminists who make that argument are wrong. Most women do not have a tendency to have this personality. For one, there is probably something different biologically with their brains, and two they are raised differently.

I think what Pekka doesn't realize is that there are a lot of men who are driven to achieve in their career at the expense of their families. That's not a good thing. I especially don't like his comments about child birth. Men can have all the children they want, but they don't have to take care of them. If a women wants a child she has to take care of it. We don't want to punish women for raising children, and we don't want to reward men for neglecting their families.