Ack! Bush tries to curb class actions suits!

[Imran Siddiqui]

Federal rules in multi state class actions are more onerous than any state rules, because of some, well, interesting, Supreme Court precedents. This makes it more costly and time-consuming to bring a class action in federal court (if the costs are too much, not going to be brought at all, of course). Anyway, can someone explain to me why state courts shouldn't be able to hear STATE LAW claims? Where is this states' rights thing I keep hearing about?

Though I do agree with the anti-coupon law attached to this one.

[DanS]

Federal rules in multi state class actions are more onerous than any state rules, because of some, well, interesting, Supreme Court precedents.

Why do you hate the Supreme Court?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Because they are a bunch of morons . Frankly having the district court look at every single law of every state in which the class plaintiffs are from and come up with one decision taking into account and applying all those laws is kind of absurd. At the very least some guidance could have been given... but it's the SCOTUS, so of course not .

[Spiffor]

Bush

If you remove that kind of class action, you'll remove one of the perks that makes the US the laughingstock of the world

Why do you hate the world so much ?

[DinoDoc]

I will admit that I would prefer it if these things were handled appropiately at the state level

[DanS]

MS was one of those shopped jurisdictions. The South was the main culprit in these suits. Lott was probably holding up this legislation when he was Majority Leader, all the while scapegoating the Democrats.

[Imran Siddiqui]

for Mississippi

Unlimited joinder is never a good idea.

[Odin]

Originally posted by Ned

2) enemies of capitalism.

Which are you?

[Sava]

Odin... yeah I liked that too.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui


Class actions have also stopped companies from keeping dangerous wares on the market. The Ford Pinto was not taken off the streets by government regulation, but by class action suits.

taking dangerous wares off the market blows. I am sick and tired of lawyers determing what products we can or cannot have. Consumer choice is suffering because of such lawsuits. Instead of class action law suits companies should have to pay a nominal fee to publish comprehensive safety data and the let the consumer decide for themselves. We supposably live in an information age so why not adjust our policies to reflect that?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Ned has become Fez .

[Wycoff]

Originally posted by Ned
Imran, all I can say is that you are now solidly in the leftist camp. Class action abuse is having a crippling effect on America to the sole benefit of trial lawyers, who contribute heavily to the Democrats and who actually run for president (Edwards) on the Democrat ticket.

Why don't you just give it up and go become a card carrying member. You are a fellow traveler as it is.

I love this excuse... blame everything on the trial lawyers. You do know Ned that BOTH sides get to have lawyers, right? Republicans use lawyers just as much as Democrats. The big business that have lost in class action suits had lawyers of their own, Ned, and they were trial lawyers that I'm sure were heavily paid by the big business. Do you hate those lawyers too, or only the ones that the side you don't approve of hires?Republicans love to demonize lawyers while turning a blind eye to the evils of big business CEOs. Do you think businessmen are more honest than lawyers, Ned? I'm not a Democrat, I'm a right-winger, but its this type of knee-jerk idiocy that makes me hate the Republican party.

As for this legislation, I don't see anything wrong with it. There are many forum games involved in class action suits. The Fed Cts are probably best suited to handle these huge, multi-state claims.

[Sava]

Originally posted by Wycoff


I love this excuse... blame everything on the trial lawyers. You do know Ned that BOTH sides get to have lawyers, right. Republicans use lawyers just as much as Democrats. The big business that have lost in class action suits had lawyers of their own, Ned, and they were trial lawyers that I'm sure were heavily paid by the big business. Do you hate those lawyers too, or only the ones that the side you don't approve of hires?Republicans love to demonize lawyers while turning a blind eye to the evils of big business CEOs. Do you think businessmen are more honest than lawyers, Ned? I'm not a Democrat, I'm a right-winger, but its this type of knee-jerk idiocy that makes me hate the Republican party.

and like I mentioned earlier, corporations file FOUR TIMES as many lawsuits as individuals... but yet, Republicans only hate the trial lawyers that help people, like John Edwards...

[Wycoff]

Imran, what law school do you attend and which year are you in?

[Imran Siddiqui]

Emory Law School in ATL, and a 3L