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  • #16
    We have recalled our ambassador from Syria. And I thought Iran was next.
    "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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    • #17
      Make Iraq invade Syria.
      Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

      It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
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      • #18
        This is a very good sign.

        firts the pa doesn't put off all the responsibility towards the israeli's

        and now the people of lebanon actually speak out against Syria.

        these two things i think will achieve more than 20 invasions.

        hope is flaring...
        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by dannubis
          hope is flaring...
          Maybe next the French will start to consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization.
          I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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          • #20
            Chirac has to many Arab voters to consider to do something like that. He knows Hezbullah is nothing but a bunch of terrorists but he couldn't even admit the sky is blue without the French-Arabs turning on him.
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            • #21
              I dunno he has taken the heroic stand of saying that people should be able to work more hours to earn more money if they choose to do so. Saying that a terrorist group is a terrorist group doesn't seem to be a bridge too far.
              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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              • #22
                Of course Hizbollah is undermining the peace process. They´re islamist fundamentals that don´t want peace. You can´t talk to fundamentalists, you can only undermine their base of power. [misunderstanding edited out]
                Last edited by Zoid; February 16, 2005, 12:07.
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                • #23
                  But Hezbollah's base of power is not the regular Palestinian people. That is the base of power for the Palestinian authority. Hebollah's base of power are Shiite fundamentalists from Iran.
                  “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.â€

                  ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man​

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Kamrat X
                    Of course Hizbollah is undermining the peace process. They´re islamist fundamentals that don´t want peace. You can´t talk to fundamentalists, you can only undermine their base of power. This is most easily done by giving the palestinians decent living conditions and hope for the future. If they see that life isn´t hopeless they´re not likely to be blowing themselves up on busses and whatnot, right?
                    Hezbollah != Palestinian terrorists
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Maybe next the French will start to consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization.


                      and maybe the US can stop interfering with matters that don't concern them. but since we both know that this is not going to happen we can best drop this line of thinking.
                      "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                      • #26
                        The discussion in the EU is about the political branch of the hamas (hezbollah?).

                        The position of France is that calling political Hamas terrorists would be counter-productive.

                        How I understand the position of France is:
                        Outlawing only the armed branch is sending the message to the Pals of
                        "You are allowed to be nationalist, but not through violence", while outlawing both branches would send the message "You are not allowed to be nationalist".
                        A little bit like Spain did with the ETA: split the political from the military branch. Allow nationalism, not armed nationalism.

                        The topic is rather old and regularly, US and/or Israel ask EU to add the political branch in the list.

                        Here is something from already 25 Aug, 2003:
                        The armed branch of Hamas is already on an EU black list of terrorist organizations, whose assets in EU countries are frozen. But the European governments are divided over whether to apply sactions against the political wing of Hamas, as demanded by Washington.

                        At a meeting in June a majority of EU states led by Britain and the Netherlands were in favour of further measures. But France in particular was against, arguing that it would be counter-productive to sideline the group.

                        The books that the world calls immoral are the books that show the world its own shame. Oscar Wilde.

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                        • #27
                          Hamas != Hezbollah

                          The former is a Palestinian organization, the later a Lebanese one under strong Iranian influence.
                          Why can't you be a non-conformist just like everybody else?

                          It's no good (from an evolutionary point of view) to have the physique of Tarzan if you have the sex drive of a philosopher. -- Michael Ruse
                          The Nedaverse I can accept, but not the Berzaverse. There can only be so many alternate realities. -- Elok

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                          • #28
                            Damn, of course Hizbollah is lebanese... I really ought to pay more attention...
                            I love being beaten by women - Lorizael

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dannubis
                              Maybe next the French will start to consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization.
                              we both know that this is not going to happen we can best drop this line of thinking.
                              Hope died.
                              I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                              For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                              • #30
                                Are there any main differences between Hamas and Hezbollah, other than the country they originate from?

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