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"You go into Afghanistan, you got guys who slap women around for five years because they didn't wear a veil," Mattis said. "You know, guys like that ain't got no manhood left anyway. So it's a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them."
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'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
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The diplomat:
You actually support your military enjoying killing people? It's one thing to argue that it is natural. It's another thing to argue that it's good
"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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No, I don't support anyone killing for fun. But let's remember that who we are fighting. We are killing terrorists who murder, rape and abuse women and children. These terrorists are barbarians. We should not "enjoy" killing them, but let's not get too politically correct either. We are talking about monsters that need to be killed.Originally posted by Spiffor
The diplomat:
You actually support your military enjoying killing people? It's one thing to argue that it is natural. It's another thing to argue that it's good
'There is a greater darkness than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. The war we fight is not against powers and principalities, it is against chaos and despair. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting, in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain.'"
G'Kar - from Babylon 5 episode "Z'ha'dum"Comment
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We should give the police force tanks and miniguns so that they can properlyenjoykilling the monsters at home while doing their part for freedom and democracy.Rethink Refuse Reduce Reuse
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What?Originally posted by The diplomat
No, I don't support anyone killing for fun. But let's remember that who we are fighting. We are killing terrorists who murder, rape and abuse women and children.
Don't get me wrong, I hate the Taliban for the way they turned Afghanistan into a medieval country once again. But though the "abuse women" part is pretty obvious, where do you get that they are raping children? Where do you get that they are especially monsters whose only deserved fate is death? Unless you consider that every wife-beater should be shot, I don't see how you would give a licence to kill Talibans.
These terrorists are barbarians. We should not "enjoy" killing them, but let's not get too politically correct either. We are talking about monsters that need to be killed.
They are nasty, there's no doubt about it. You're fighting a war against them, and it means you are killing them when they fight against you, that' fair game. But how are each and every one of these people "monsters"? Who are you talking about exactly?"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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Yeah, what a loser, who would take joy in the experiance of victory over your enemy."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Yeah, as long as it's monsters and not helpless animals, excluding polar bears, which can be a bit monster-like at times.Originally posted by General Ludd
We should give the police force tanks and miniguns so that they can properlyenjoykilling the monsters at home while doing their part for freedom and democracy.
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Damn... I was planning to make that sort of remark.Originally posted by General Ludd
We should give the police force tanks and miniguns so that they can properlyenjoykilling the monsters at home while doing their part for freedom and democracy.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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afaik this man commanded troops in Afghanistan who obeyed the rules of war, and only attacked armed taliban. The same rules of engagement were followed as those followed by all coalition forces in Afghanistan, INCLUDING Aussies, French, Canadians, etc.
The only thing remarkable here is the subjective attitude, and that it was expressed in public. Evidenly it if offends some people who think soldiers should cry when they kill their adversaries. Well the USMC is NOT like that, and probably never will be. Note that while the US army has historically recruited by focusing on career opportunities, benefits, etc the USMC has recruited based on the chance to become a warrior.
The guy should have kept his mouth shut though.
"People sleep peacebly in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
~George Orwell"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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They think the same about youOriginally posted by The diplomat
We are talking about monsters that need to be killed.So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!Comment
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Originally posted by Dissident
let's get real here. I was on a ship with marines, I see how they act. They want nothing more than to get some "action" And by action I'm not talking about sex with hot chicks.
This general is just saying what many marines want.
People think most marines join up to serve their country, but it's really to kill.I drank beer. I like beer. I still like beer. ... Do you like beer Senator?
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Yup. we know that. Of course they think the same about you too.Originally posted by Chemical Ollie
They think the same about you"A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin BuberComment
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That's the reason I'm protesting. Any "white man" is at risk because some bully countries have upset a lot of A-rabs.Originally posted by lord of the mark
Yup. we know that. Of course they think the same about you too.So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
Be kind to the nerdiest guy in school. He will be your boss when you've grown up!Comment
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Which is why I like have Marines to kill them.They think the same about you"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Isn't enjoyment of actual killing a sign of serious mental illness?“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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