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**Lincoln** · February 4, 2005, 00:18

Well I am off to bed folks. Catch up with you all later...

**PLATO** · February 4, 2005, 00:20

Originally posted by Lincoln
Well I am off to bed folks. Catch up with you all later...

Nite.

**Asher** · February 4, 2005, 00:22

Originally posted by PLATO

Ever been to Tennessee?

What're you trying to say?

93% of Tennessee is Christian...

**DRoseDARs** · February 4, 2005, 00:32

The funny thing in all this is that I actually oppose abortion. I'd much rather it restricted only to cases of incest, rape, or threat to the mother's health. Even then it would still be a choice, not a mandatory procedure.

However, in debates such as this, I side with the pro-choice camp because the anti-abortionists seem to think all of these unwanted pregnancies are going to grow up as strong, healthy, loved babies. They seem to have a disconnect from the reality that many (not all of them; I wouldn't even say "most") of these mothers are irresponsible dingbats who don't bother with proper protection, who seem to think getting an abortion is not much different from going to the bathroom: She's just expelling waste. These children either can't be cared for by their mothers or won't be because the mothers don't care. Many end up in foster care and are never quite right afterwards. The State can't give them the care and attention their parents should be providing.

Most (yes, now I would use the word "most") of these goddamn anti-abortionists simply refuse to step up to the plate and adopt these children on a large scale. All they spend their energy on is brow-beating women going to the abortion clinics. Although the thought of adopted children being raised by fundamentalcase Christians worries me deeply, at least the State wouldn't be asked to a job it wasn't meant to do nor should do.

**PLATO** · February 4, 2005, 00:43

Originally posted by Asher

What're you trying to say?

93% of Tennessee is Christian...

Oh yes. Definately. I wasn't trying to argue that point. In every day practice, however, Tennessee is pretty secular. The Christian religion plays an important part in our lives, but it is not any more prominent in the slant of our newscasters than a national newscaster. So, while it is probably easy to assume a Christian bias in local news with the 93% figure you quote, it is usually not the case. Now, having not actually seen the broadcast that Lincoln quotes, it is not possible for me to say unequivocally that this is not the case.

More to the point of my post. There is a bias that simply because we are a predominntly Christian area, that all facets of our lives are dictated by Christianity. This is not really the case. In most instances, Tennessee is as secular as anywhere else. Hence..."Have you ever been to Tennessee?"

**Asher** · February 4, 2005, 00:46

Originally posted by PLATO
Oh yes. Definately. I wasn't trying to argue that point. In every day practice, however, Tennessee is pretty secular. The Christian religion plays an important part in our lives, but it is not any more prominent in the slant of our newscasters than a national newscaster. So, while it is probably easy to assume a Christian bias in local news with the 93% figure you quote, it is usually not the case. Now, having not actually seen the broadcast that Lincoln quotes, it is not possible for me to say unequivocally that this is not the case.

More to the point of my post. There is a bias that simply because we are a predominntly Christian area, that all facets of our lives are dictated by Christianity. This is not really the case. In most instances, Tennessee is as secular as anywhere else. Hence..."Have you ever been to Tennessee?"

You can say a population with 93% Christians is fairly secular if you want.

But the reporter for this TV station clearly has a slant, either that or it's incredibly poor journalism. The Planned Parenthood website says they use sonograms, even...

**PLATO** · February 4, 2005, 00:47

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
The funny thing in all this is that I actually oppose abortion. I'd much rather it restricted only to cases of incest, rape, or threat to the mother's health. Even then it would still be a choice, not a mandatory procedure.

However, in debates such as this, I side with the pro-choice camp because the anti-abortionists seem to think all of these unwanted pregnancies are going to grow up as strong, healthy, loved babies. They seem to have a disconnect from the reality that many (not all of them; I wouldn't even say "most") of these mothers are irresponsible dingbats who don't bother with proper protection, who seem to think getting an abortion is not much different from going to the bathroom: She's just expelling waste. These children either can't be cared for by their mothers or won't be because the mothers don't care. Many end up in foster care and are never quite right afterwards. The State can't give them the care and attention their parents should be providing.

Most (yes, now I would use the word "most") of these goddamn anti-abortionists simply refuse to step up to the plate and adopt these children on a large scale. All they spend their energy on is brow-beating women going to the abortion clinics. Although the thought of adopted children being raised by fundamentalcase Christians worries me deeply, at least the State wouldn't be asked to a job it wasn't meant to do nor should do.

Very well put. It certainly brings the dilema of abortion to the forefront. It also brings the need for quality sex education, including the use of contraceptives, to the forefront as well.

**PLATO** · February 4, 2005, 00:51

Originally posted by Asher

You can say a population with 93% Christians is fairly secular if you want.

Come visit. I'll bet it won't be what you expect.

But the reporter for this TV station clearly has a slant, either that or it's incredibly poor journalism. The Planned Parenthood website says they use sonograms, even...

In certainly could be eithier. Both would be out of character of the norm.

**DRoseDARs** · February 4, 2005, 00:54

Perhaps my characterization of many abortion-seeking mothers being "irresponsible dingbats who don't bother with proper protection" is unfair. There is a severe problem with the way this country goes about teaching sex education. Those goddamn self-righteous religionists (predomninently Christian) keep interfering with corrective and preventitive education to force the teaching of their "Say Your Hail Marys And Pray It Goes Away" format.

**DRoseDARs** · February 4, 2005, 00:57

On a side note, a Christian in the daycare at work was praying for my testicle. The pain has since gone away. Halleleughapraisejebus (fuk teh speeling)!!!

I thanked her, nonetheless.

**Urban Ranger** · February 4, 2005, 00:58

Don't feed the troll...

**PLATO** · February 4, 2005, 00:58

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
Those goddamn self-righteous religionists (predomninently Christian) keep interfering with corrective and preventitive education to force the teaching of their "Say Your Hail Marys And Pray It Goes Away" format.

A vocal minority to be sure. Equally as wrong as they are loud.

**DRoseDARs** · February 4, 2005, 01:00

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Don't feed the troll...

Why? He's asleep. It's fun to through food on him.

**DRoseDARs** · February 4, 2005, 01:02

Oh, you we're talking about the girl. Nah, she knows I'm not Christian; that I'm just being polite and friendly. She's ok with it, she accepts that we differ in our views.

**Urban Ranger** · February 4, 2005, 01:02

You might arouse him...

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