Originally posted by Berzerker
You've just argued that we are collectively guilty because society - the collective - is guilty. Saying we are guilty because we are guilty doesn't tell me anything. Explain to me why the people who oppose Bush are guilty for his actions (I assume this group includes Churchill). Btw, Bush isn't responsible for the decades leading up to 9/11, he just happened to be in office at the time. Clinton and Bush I are largely why 9/11 happened, i.e., why people pushed back to use Churchill's words.
You've just argued that we are collectively guilty because society - the collective - is guilty. Saying we are guilty because we are guilty doesn't tell me anything. Explain to me why the people who oppose Bush are guilty for his actions (I assume this group includes Churchill). Btw, Bush isn't responsible for the decades leading up to 9/11, he just happened to be in office at the time. Clinton and Bush I are largely why 9/11 happened, i.e., why people pushed back to use Churchill's words.
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