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Either ban it all or allow it all is my view.
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It would help marriage by allowing a loving couple to get married. Gay couples are just as capable of getting married as any heterosexual couples.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
No more so than the folks who elevate common law relationships on par with marriage, and the folks who treat marriage as a business contract.
How would it help marriage Fez?For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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These issues ARE NOT CONNECTED. I cannot believe you can even begin to say that. And don't nit pick on a particular word choice.Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I have recieved conflicting points here in this thread to my earlier question. Some say it ought to be permitted, and others say that it should not.
But both agree that these issues are connected, even though they disagree on most everything else.
Why should marriage be between two individuals Fez? You cannot be an individual, and one with your partner at the same time.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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When you start redifining words that have particular meaning in law you open the barn door. It is a valid point.Originally posted by Giancarlo
These issues ARE NOT CONNECTED. I cannot believe you can even begin to say that. And don't nit pick on a particular word choice."I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure." - Clarence Darrow
"I didn't attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." - Mark TwainComment
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SpencerH, The US was founded on the principles of the Enlightenment, and many of the founders were Deists.Comment
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False dichotomy if I ever heard one.Originally posted by SpencerH
Our marriage laws are based on Judeo-Christian beliefs i.e. 'one man and one woman'. IMO, once you reject the law to allow gay marriage you reject it outright and as a consequence must allow other types of marriage.Tutto nel mondo è burlaComment
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Indeed not. BK seems to be confused in that marriage in Canada is a religious rite, when it is (in the context of the debate) a civil one.Originally posted by joncha
References to your religion have no bearing on my marriage.
But at least we now have his cards on the table: People who don't plan on/are able to have kids shouldn't be allowed to marry. Thank god religious nuts like this don't run Canada.
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The matter of choice for the girl is removed and for most of these arrangements most of the family or shall i say each wife ends upapplying for welfare living off the states fund for support.Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
whats wrong with polygamy anyway?When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.Comment
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
First is the impending recognition in Europe of the polygamy rights for Muslims, and the subsequent demand from Muslims here for similar recognition.
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"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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That's not a defense of anything. If you're going to make a case for something, try making an actual argument. The question on the table is how it would help marriage. If you really think there is value in gay marriage, you should be able to answer that with something of substance.Originally posted by Giancarlo
It would help marriage by allowing a loving couple to get married. Gay couples are just as capable of getting married as any heterosexual couples."The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
"you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
"I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - DissidentComment
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My beef with polygamy is that women would all go with the rich hunks, leaving us nerds out in the cold...
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I my self wouldnt be asking how it could help marriage, but rather how could it hurt the institution of marriage.When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.Comment
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Originally posted by Odin
My beef with polygamy is that women would all go with the rich hunks, leaving us nerds out in the cold...
Not if your a rich nerd.
When you find yourself arguing with an idiot, you might want to rethink who the idiot really is.
"It can't rain all the time"-Eric Draven
Being dyslexic is hard work. I don't even try anymore.Comment
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An equally valid question.Originally posted by Mrs. Tuberski
I my self wouldnt be asking how it could help marriage, but rather how could it hurt the institution of marriage.
For the record, I'm completely in favor of gay marriage. I think there are many compelling reasons to allow it. I also think that if you're going to advocate something, you should be able to back yourself up instead of just giving the other side and easy target to tear down. That only strengthens the opposition."The French caused the war [Persian Gulf war, 1991]" - Ned
"you people who bash Bush have no appreciation for one of the great presidents in our history." - Ned
"I wish I had gay sex in the boy scouts" - DissidentComment
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The incomplete response scores 0/5. Feel free to expand (on just what the hell you mean by thatOriginally posted by Boris Godunov
False dichotomy if I ever heard one.
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We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.Comment
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