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  • #16
    Just wait until they try the homogas on camels
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    • #17
      homogas? I really don't know....
      Haven't been here for ages....

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Oerdin
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        • #19
          This article is a joke, right?
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          • #20
            Originally posted by GePap
            Just one quible, agent Orange and other defoliants can be considered chemical warfare and they were used very extensively.
            They weren't deliberately used on people no where they? They were designed to kill bushes and trees and the US used them to clear areas near road sides of folliage to prevent ambushes. If you want to play that game then you are likely to be a user of chemical weapons if you have ever used round up to kill weeds in your yard. The better explination though is to understand that no all chemicals are weapons.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Oerdin


              They weren't deliberately used on people no where they? They were designed to kill bushes and trees and the US used them to clear areas near road sides of folliage to prevent ambushes. If you want to play that game then you are likely to be a user of chemical weapons if you have ever used round up to kill weeds in your yard. The better explination though is to understand that no all chemicals are weapons.
              The fact that the chemicals were not meant to kill directly does not mean its not chemical warfare- since when does warfare mean only "kills people"? If I burned all the crops of a people to starve them, that is a military tactic that kills no one. Trying to destroy their hinding space is also a military strategy, and those defoliants have caused a lot of environmental problems in Vietnam.

              I could use a dum-dum bullet on a deer, but if ai use it against and enemy soldier its a war crime- so what?
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              • #22
                Originally posted by GePap
                I could use a dum-dum bullet on a deer, but if ai use it against and enemy soldier its a war crime- so what?
                I'm not quite following you.
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                • #23
                  I'm not kidding, although I'm not 100% certain either.

                  Every few years, I hear a news story about some brat blowing up a cat in a microwave, so even with simple microwave technology, you can do some nasty things.

                  Does any of you deny the use of DU, or believe that it's not a chemical or radiological weapon? This sure looks like another technological abomination.

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                  • #24
                    Can Bush microwave an Iraqi so hot that even He can't liberate it?
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                    • #25
                      Ari, your avatar is freaking me out.

                      In response to your question, I assume it's rhetorical. God can do all things.
                      Haven't been here for ages....

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Oerdin


                        I'm not quite following you.
                        You said civilians can use weed killers, so how can it be chemical warfare...

                        well, just cause under certain conditions a civilian can do it means nothing to its role in warfare. For example dum-dum bullets are banned for use in warfare-that has nothing to do with civilian actions.

                        The question is, did those chemicals have a battlefield function? Yes, they were used to create a better battle condition for one army. Its obviously a tool of warfare. Now, this may be a form of chemical warfare that is allowed (I am dubious on that, given the nasty effects of powerful defoliants on the civilian population), but its silly to just say "they used weedkiller, can;t be chemical warfare".
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                        • #27
                          That is surely abuse of the term.
                          No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Is Bush microwaving Iraqis?

                            Originally posted by realpolitic
                            Even if you don't believe this, the fact that many people do shows how low America has sunk in world opion.
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                            • #29
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by The Mad Monk
                                That is surely abuse of the term.
                                No, its not, no more than including chemical agents as "weapons of mass destruction" is a gross abuse of "mass destruction".

                                Simple analogy- if some state took a virulent fungus that attacked food crops, and then infected the US food supply, would you classify that as biological warfare, even if the fungus does absolutely 0 harm to humans directly?

                                Oh, and agent orange is not just a "weed killer", it is a powerful defoliant meant to kill plansts- you think food plants are unaffacted by it, or human beings breathing the stuff? (yeah, just spritz that weed killer all over yourself and your kids, its harmless!)
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