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  • #91
    Originally posted by Solomwi


    Or you could set b) with the actual conditions that preclude the other integers, thereby making it a true and satisfactory explanation. Example:

    a) the creator made it so
    b) 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 are greater than 3 by themselves, and 3 needs no other number added to it, so 1 and 2 are the only possibilities. Further, 1+1 is too small and 2+2 is too large.

    b) seems like a good answer to me.
    But with answer a) present, answer b) just looks silly. Why do we go through all these trouble when there is a simple answer? Let me see... perhaps to feed some scientists so that they can live on it?

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Xin Yu


      But with answer a) present, answer b) just looks silly. Why do we go through all these trouble when there is a simple answer? Let me see... perhaps to feed some scientists so that they can live on it?
      Let me see... You also believe that the sun and planets revolve around a flat Earth, because those too are simpler answers correct?

      Error. Does not compute.
      The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

      The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by Xin Yu
        But with answer a) present, answer b) just looks silly. Why do we go through all these trouble when there is a simple answer? Let me see... perhaps to feed some scientists so that they can live on it?
        Simple - a) is not an answer.

        Knowledge is accumulated by those who rejected such silly notions, not by those who advocated them.

        Just think, you wouldn't have a job if people were satisied with answers such as "god did it." We would all still be sitting in caves.
        (\__/) 07/07/1937 - Never forget
        (='.'=) "Claims demand evidence; extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence." -- Carl Sagan
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        • #94
          Originally posted by Urban Ranger
          Simple - a) is not an answer.
          No. a) is an answer superior to b) since b) requires using some hidden information about the integer system. The conditions used in b): 4 - 9 > 3 were not necessary in solving this problem. Hence b) is inferior to a), which used less conditions.

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          • #95
            So an answer based on nothing to you is superior than one which requires knowledge?

            OK. Oh, and for 50 bucks I can act as your doctor. That pain you feel? Hmm, let me see..Its god's will, stop complaining!
            If you don't like reality, change it! me
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            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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            • #96
              Originally posted by GePap
              So an answer based on nothing to you is superior than one which requires knowledge?

              OK. Oh, and for 50 bucks I can act as your doctor. That pain you feel? Hmm, let me see..Its god's will, stop complaining!
              Come on, that was meant to be a joke. I said it was a joke when posting the question. Why don't you just laugh instead of being so serious?

              Don't you understand that you can never persuade me, nor can I persuade you? Now follow me: ha ha ha

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              • #97
                First of all, the ability to cook or worship divine beings aren't hard-wired into us.
                While worship of divine beings might not be a necessary part of the human condition, religion certainly is.
                I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                • #98
                  Religion isn't a necessary part of the human condition.
                  Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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                  • #99
                    Thank you, I thought I read that wrong; that my eyes had gone bad.
                    The cake is NOT a lie. It's so delicious and moist.

                    The Weighted Companion Cube is cheating on you, that slut.

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                    • Originally posted by DanS


                      While worship of divine beings might not be a necessary part of the human condition, religion certainly is.
                      DanS, how are you? Long time no see!

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                      • Don't you understand that you can never persuade me, nor can I persuade you? Now follow me: ha ha ha
                        Well that's producive. Why did you start the thread then.

                        And you haven't given any reason why a "simple" answer that doesn't use "information" is superior. If you don't have that all you have are bald assertions and logical fallacies.
                        Stop Quoting Ben

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                        • DanS has been around...

                          blah!

                          I ask Darwin, "explain homosexuality."

                          Washusal!""
                          Monkey!!!

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                          • Originally posted by Boshko

                            Well that's producive. Why did you start the thread then.
                            Because I feel like it

                            Originally posted by Boshko
                            And you haven't given any reason why a "simple" answer that doesn't use "information" is superior. If you don't have that all you have are bald assertions and logical fallacies.
                            OK, my personal opinion: suppose your 9 year old nephew asks you this question, how do you answer him? If you use a) it ends here. If you use b) then get ready for at least 3 follow- up questions. So the rule of thumb is: do not introduce new concepts when answer a question unless absolutely necessary. Answer a) is not incorrect, it is just not detailed. You give this answer and a lot of people will be satisfied. For those who are not, give them a book and let them read since they need to learn more before they can apprehend more complicated answers.

                            Of course, since I was the one who gave the question, my opinion should be the final verdict. Now follow me: ha ha ha

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                            • DanS, how are you? Long time no see!
                              It's good to see you back, Xin! Good luck on the green card situation. It's ridiculous that the government isn't more discerning. But it's nice to know that the pressure's off with regard to your work situation.

                              Like you, I haven't played Civ in a couple of years. Civ 3 got old after a couple of weeks of play. Maybe Civ 4 will be fun.

                              Religion isn't a necessary part of the human condition.
                              And I disagree. It's no accident that religion has been a prominent part of every human civilization and tribe.
                              I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                              • Originally posted by Xin Yu

                                Sincerely, from my limited knowledge, this theory has a lot of problems (of course you can still defend it against any question I raised against it. In fact I think any theory can be defended by a group of clever people, for example the dream team who defended OJ. ) One single fact is enough to throw it away: Earth is the only planet with life in its affinity. Other planets and satellites, although not as good as the earth, some of them must at least still be good enough for a single-cell creature? So, I don't believe in evolution UNLESS there is evidence to show that other planets have certain kind of life forms.
                                No offense, but ignorance doesn't prove a theory wrong.
                                “As a lifelong member of the Columbia Business School community, I adhere to the principles of truth, integrity, and respect. I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do.”
                                "Capitalism ho!"

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