ARTICLE: Cloudy Skies Knock Out Anti-Missile Defense!

[Q Classic]

Reports on the system, or lack thereof, where Kim is seen as a Godling of some sort.

Am I wrong? Is there even the slimest of systems? Could Kim be removed by the NK version of Breshnev?

well, I think it's silly to assume he's some bat**** dictator. why? bat**** dictators aren't as easy to misread as a shrewd dictator trying to look bat****. give credit where credit is due.

[ http://www.nkzone.org ]

[notyoueither]

It walks like guano, it talks like guano, it smells like guano, it quite probably is bat****.

Underestimating the extent of bat**** in various dictators reads like a history of the twentieth century.

Why are people 70 years later in such a hurry to see major democracies defenceless in the face of bat**** crazy?

[Sikander]

Originally posted by chegitz guevara

Yeah, cuz Raytheon lobbied hard to have the Fed's givem them $20 billion.

Hey they're just trying to recoup their expenses. That lobbying cost them over 7 million dollars.

[Sikander]

Some of you commies need to watch "Team America: World Police" and educate yourselves about the menace that Kim poses to the world. Even Michael Moore has a cameo in that film, so its documentary credentials are solid.

[Q Classic]

Some of you commies need to watch "Team America: World Police" and educate yourselves about the menace that Kim poses to the world.

except the korean song in it isn't in korean... it's just your "ching chang chong" generic asian language mocking, dressed up in song.

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It walks like guano, it talks like guano, it smells like guano, it quite probably is bat****.

Underestimating the extent of bat**** in various dictators reads like a history of the twentieth century.

except every action of his in the past decade has had a readily identifiable motive and purpose: that is, to get hard capital into his country for him to cement his control that much more.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
It is the very nature of these discussions about things that haven't happened yet to be speculative.

Do you have something to actually say?

That's funny. You are making wild speculations to "prove" your point, and I am just pointing how much hot air that is.

Originally posted by notyoueither
Why do you say that? How many first tests fail? I would put money on Japanese technology working, the first time.

Go right ahead. Even Boeing could not make such a bet on the first flight of the 777 was going to be successful, even after numerous computer simulations and model testings.

Originally posted by notyoueither
Do you want to put your life on it being impossible that it would?

So you are only going to put money on it, yet asking me if I am going to put my life up? That's nice.

Originally posted by notyoueither
The first 'test' by Japan would most likely be over several sites in NK, and quite possibly all over the PRC. How much you wanna bet their hasty bombs wouldn't work?

Pure speculation, of course.

Are you going to put a time on when will this happen?

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by notyoueither
Why are people 70 years later in such a hurry to see major democracies defenceless in the face of bat**** crazy?

Okay, you say Kim's nutty. If so, why hasn't he made some nuclear warheads and detonated them over South Korea and Japan?

This very fact alone should make you aware that he's not insane.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger
Are you going to put a time on when will this happen?

At the point they feel they have no other choice than to act to take Kim, or his capabilities out. Most likely shortly after Kim actually did lauch a missile at a major population centre in Japan or SK. But no specific date, no.

This is wildly speculative. They would have to have lost faith in the US as their guardians. It would take quit a lot for any Japanese government to risk the political consequences of a domestic nuclear weapons program, I would imagine. But people who seem to know what they are talking about have said that a country like Japan or Canada is within 90 days of servicable nukes, so it is possible within the period of time that a crisis might last.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Q Cubed
except every action of his in the past decade has had a readily identifiable motive and purpose: that is, to get hard capital into his country for him to cement his control that much more.

Timewarp to nearly 70 years ago...

except every action of his has had a readily identifiable motive and purpose: that is, to roll back the injustices of the Treaty of Versailles.

Right, he couldn't be mad at all.

[chequita guevara]

Originally posted by notyoueither


Timewarp to nearly 70 years ago...

except every action of his has had a readily identifiable motive and purpose: that is, to roll back the injustices of the Treaty of Versailles.

Right, he couldn't be mad at all.

Of course, he also announced to the world everything he intended to do. But because he was an ardent anti-communist, your side was willing to look the other way for a while.

[notyoueither]

Yes, wishful thinking and maybe agendas in some parts led 'the world' to be unconcerned about a man who would prove to be quite mad, and who willed total destruction on his own land and people in the end.

Turned out pretty good, eh?

[chequita guevara]

Where is Kim's Mein Kampf? You can't say Kim is insane just because Hitler was. It's a BS argument.

[notyoueither]

You can't be crazy if your don't publish? Does it have to be in German?

You can't say he's not crazy, and can be trusted with nukes because nobody could be that crazy. It's a BS argument.

[chequita guevara]

I'm not saying he isn't crazy. I'm just not saying he is. There is plenty of evidence for both arguments so I'm agnostic on the issue. I don't think you're taking a stand on the evidence, but simply declaring him crazy because he's a dictator.

[notyoueither]

You gotta admit, this is simply bizarre. You think the guy(s) running this show are rational?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4097031.stm

N Korea warns Japan on sanctions

Tokyo is furious over the issue of Japanese abducted by the North
North Korea has warned that it will regard any economic sanctions imposed by Japan in response to an ongoing kidnap row as a "declaration of war".
The Japanese government has already suspended food aid to North Korea as a result of the dispute.

Tokyo was outraged after human remains provided by North Korea were not those of a kidnapped Japanese woman.

North Korea has said it kidnapped some Japanese to train its spies, but denies any are still alive in the North.


A Japanese government official said sanctions against North Korea were one of the measures Tokyo was considering, but it first wanted to analyse all the information on missing Japanese nationals that its officials gathered during a visit to the North last month.

He said the decision would be made by the end of the year.

Heartbreak in Japan

Sanctions could involve restricting Japanese port calls by North Korean vessels, remittances from Koreans living in Japan to the North, and imports of North Korean foods such as sea food and specialist mushrooms.

Pyongyang accused Japan of falsifying the tests to damage ties and said that if sanctions were imposed, it would hit back with an "effective physical response". The impoverished state relies heavily on contributions from Korean nationals in Japan.

"If sanctions are applied against the DPRK (North Korea)... we will regard it as a declaration of war against our country and promptly react to the action by an effective physical method," a statement carried by the official Korean Central News Agency said.

The statement said North Korea would also reconsider taking part in six-nation talks on its nuclear programme if Tokyo halted aid shipments. The Japanese government said earlier this week that as a result of the abduction row, it would hold back half of the 250,000 tonnes of food aid it promised North Korea in May.

More than six million North Koreans rely on foreign food aid for basic sustenance. Japan's gift has made it one of the North's most generous recent donors, but the North has survived Japanese freezes in the past. Before it promised the lump sum earlier this year, Tokyo had not pledged food aid to North Korea since 2001.

Any moves to change Japan's financial relationship with North Korea, however, are unlikely to be supported by Washington and other Japanese allies, as this would complicate the multinational talks process under way with Pyongyang.

Japanese anger

But pressure is mounting within Japan for action against its impoverished neighbour.

Last week, DNA tests showed that bones provided by North Korea to prove that a missing Japanese woman, Megumi Yokota, was dead, did not belong to her but to several other people.

Pyongyang admitted kidnapping her in 1977 but said she committed suicide in 1984. Many in Japan, including her parents, are suspicious and believe she is still alive.

Some believe she is being detained because she knows too much about the secretive country.

Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi suggested the latest threats from North Korea might be part of a political strategy.

"We have to look carefully at what their true intentions are," he told reporters.

Pyongyang admitted in 2002 to abducting 13 Japanese nationals in the 1970s and 80s, who were to be used as cultural trainers for North Korean spies.

Five were allowed to return to Japan in 2002, while North Korea said the others had died or never entered the country.