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**Midshipman** · January 20, 2001, 04:20

Snowie - could you post links to these varients. I would be willing to participate, but I must first learn about them

**PolarisGL** · January 20, 2001, 08:33

SnowFire's right about me wanting to begin a game.

I really want to try this Napoleonic Diplomacy. The point system used to "bid" on non-player areas is very interesting. I'm sad no one wants to try it out.

If you mean Feudal Diplomacy, that is just a new variant for us to try out when some games are over, ie, Shogun Diplomacy. I have some more variants.

Shogun Diplomacy is on, SnowFire. I posted the Fall moves yesterday.

SnowFire, I'm interested in your variants. I'm always interested in new things, especially variants by fellow Apolyton players. Sorry about the map. While making my Shogun Diplomacy map, I lost it when I was outlining the map.

**SnowFire** · January 20, 2001, 16:56

Midshipman: http://web.libertysurf.se/baches/bretwald.htm
Is the Bretwalda page (which has a few variant rules concerning fleets & ports & home SC's), and http://web.libertysurf.se/baches/heptarch.htm
Is the Heptarchy page (which was the original version of the variant and is played completely straight).

LS1: Thanks.

Polaris: The long and short of my variant is that it is a magic-using variant of the game, intended to be played on the 1600 map, with various innovations (the crappy magical-variants you see at the DipPouch are all hideously unabalanced, plus with really uncreative magic spells like "sail on land."). There would also be soemthing of a story behind the map, and unraveling enough of it would give you access to some unbelievably powerful spells & technology. You'd also have more of an incentive to explore in odd places, since you never know what you'll find (and you'll get hints of other places to look to find cool stuff, of course).

I can't really give the details to you, since obviously all the events are hidden from players, and I'd like to keep the magic tree blind too- you can't be sure what spells you'll find, what you'll research, or even what spells your opponent has (without some sort of scrying spell, of course), since he might not have used his spell or used it quitely in a way that isn't announced. And of course different players start out with diffrent spells.

**reismark** · January 20, 2001, 22:14

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Originally posted by SnowFire on 01-20-2001 03:12 AM
I think Colonization Dip is just plain dead.

No it isn't. I have orders from everyone but can't adjudicate until I have some spare time...

**PolarisGL** · January 20, 2001, 22:37

I've thought of doing a magic variant, SnowFire, for your reasons. But I could never get new ideas. I gave up on it a while ago.

One thing I did think of is an area that "ices" up magically every fall and winter, where the water becomes land, and armies can pass on a fall turn. Just an idea you can use on your variant if you would like to.

[This message has been edited by PolarisGL (edited January 20, 2001).]

**LordStone1** · January 21, 2001, 01:16

Don't forget ADCT: The Tournament of Champions.

**LordStone1** · January 21, 2001, 01:51

Ok, here's the list of players I found from the archives for Dip20:

Australia: LordStone1
India: Thucydides, abandoned; Ruffhaus8 for the majority of the game
France: Hacksaw, then ScottF for the last few SC's.
Middle East: MjD - I have a feeling that he was replaced.
Mexico: Sahib
Russia: Bill3000 - NMR'ed the last few turns
CSA: Defiant
Brazil: Kropotkin
Germany: Talon
USA: Berzerker
Japan: Mao
China: bcr3
SE Asia: SnowCrash22
South Africa: Boshko
Austria: Gibster
England: Brave, replaced; SnowFire (I think)
North Africa: Hans2, I think it was replaced too
Canada: Coug

**reismark** · January 21, 2001, 16:26

And as I promised, Colonization Diplomacy is back!

SF, I need a retreat from you...

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