Technology List

[Jeremy Buloch]

OK to start with what types of catagories will we need? we will discuss what goes into these catagories after this list is completed and agreed upon. We can create ones if we need to if not included here...

-Biology

-Chemistry

-Physics

-Mathmatics

-Computers

-Social Science & Philosophy

~new ones~

-Astronomy

-Ecology

-Forensic ~ Police enhancements

-Engineering

-Geology

-Oceanography

-kinesiology

-Diamondtology ~ mining resources etc.

-entomology

-zoology

-Theology

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Ok thats about all I could come up with before gettting bored.
-J.B.-

[Jeremy Buloch]

~ just thought up. ~

- Archeology

- etymology

- audiology

- History

Argh my Internet disconnected.

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-J.B.-

[NeOmega]

Well I have begun working on my technology tree for my mod, and I had porcelain alloys..... I hope you dont mind, the concept was there, but I think I meant ceramic alloys
(I just realized after reading this thread I was talking about making super strong alloys out of a mix of china and titanium, or maybe toilet bowls and titanium )
Anyways, computers use binary numbers.......
so one of my techs is trilogicals, or chips that use 3 values, +, 0, & -. instead of electrons or absence of electrons being 1 & 0 respectively, H atoms are stripped of their electrons and separated (how?.. I dunno)into two banks of protons and electrons. As they pass through nano-etches in a non-metallic substance... (a porcelain alloy perhaps? )

any help, scientific retort?

figure1 3d rendering
figure2 a proton passes through, pulling up the -charged (forgot my high school chemistry... is that possible?) large atom, breaking the circuit and being noted as a +
figure 3 no proton or electron, 0
figure 4 an electron passes through, pulling down positiviely charged atom, breaking current, and releasing -


of course the devil is in the details....

[Jeremy Buloch]

heh Ceramic alloys do sound like that dont they? Well they aren't. Some times its made out of this: Chrome/Cobalt Base Alloy
Other times its made out of this:
Diamond
So as you can see its not allways china and etc. its actually a type of alloy that has high strength, durability, and is thermal stability-sag resistance. The Diamond is.

-Off topic...

Your graphics look good in the Civ. 3 forum. We are in need of some graphics people if you are interested.


~ BTW this isn't Spam only a statement and opinion.
-J.B.-

[Jeremy Buloch]

-Biology

-Chemistry

-Physics

-Mathmatics

-Computers

-Social Science & Philosophy

~new ones~

-Astronomy

-Ecology

-Forensic ~ Police enhancements

-Engineering

-Geology

-Oceanography

-kinesiology

-Diamondtology ~ mining resources etc.

-entomology

-zoology

-Theology

- Archeology

- etymology

- audiology

- History

- Meteorology

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-J.B.-

[NeOmega]

Originally posted by Jeremy Buloch
heh Ceramic alloys do sound like that dont they? Well they aren't. Some times its made out of this: Chrome/Cobalt Base Alloy
Other times its made out of this:
Diamond
So as you can see its not allways china and etc. its actually a type of alloy that has high strength, durability, and is thermal stability-sag resistance. The Diamond is.

-J.B.-

Oh yeah, I know, I meant ceramic alloys, but I called it porcelain alloys, ther is a large difference, since I think porcelain is glazed ceramics...
I had a friend whose dad was engineering a ceramic spray that could withstand enormous amounts of heat, and not become brittle....

but porcelain alloys.... I dont think so.

perhaps some other techs of note would be theory of infinity, where infinity is introduced as a number, akin to 0 in properties... and law of gravity where finally a better explanation than "matter has a tendency to be attracted to itself" can explain what causes that attraction.... (as of now, its just some magical attraction)

my models are not 3ds format yet, and I have only begun to experiment with 3ds in the past week......

EDIT: sorry I thought this was the think tank thread

[Leland]

We've had "theory of infinity" for over a hundred years or so. It's called transfinite mathematics.

[DeathByTheSword]

about the attract of matter siencists just discovered gravitons.....they are a elemental partical that transfers gravity as fast as light......so gravity is a form of radation just like light and radiowaves

[targon]

In fact, gravity also is a distortion of the "fabric" of space/time. You can imagine this like some kind of elastic membrane, with some "punches" caused by masses plased on it; this "punches" act on moving particles, attracting them. In fact, this picture isn't either complete or correct; BTW, graviting masses "punch" both space and time; this effect is subtile, but it was measured for Earth gravity field. If I remember correctly, gravitons must be zero mass (hence acting at the distance), spin = 2 particles.
BTW, D.B.T.S. where they were dicovered?

[Gateway103]

Graviton, afaik, wasn't "discovered" per se. It was a theorized particle for a quantum version of theory of gravity (or quantum gravity).

As for gravity being the result of distortion in space-time fabric. This was what was described in the General Theory of Relativity (which turned out to be a theory of gravity), where gravity wasn't a "force" anymore, but the result of distortion.

The two models are... unfortunately, not mutually compatible, just like Quantum Mechanics and Relativites aren't... The search for a unified theory continues...

Anyway, just FYI.

-Gateway103

[DeathByTheSword]

well i just read somewhere that gravity has speed....it was in a science article not to long ago....and if it travel it need something to get them moving....those where called gravitons......they are everywhere as far as i understand......they pass along the gravity.....but that is all i know.....so if they can somehow measure and study gravitons you can have a complete theory of gravity like neOmega suggested

[Jeremy Buloch]

So is this Science Catagory list good?
-J.B.-

[NeOmega]

hmm transfinite mathematics... a little strange... I dont get it, (from the 10 minutes I spent reading about it)

however, I was looking at it as more like the relationship between 0, (is not) 1, (is) and Infinity (is always)

like divide infinity by zero to make infinity
divide zero by infinity to make 0

divide 1 by 0 to make infinity
divide 1 by infinity to make 0

divide infinity by 1 to make infinity
divide zero by 1 to make 0

1 x (infinity) = infinity
1 x 0 = 0

infinity x 0 = 1
infinity x infinity = infinity
0 x 0 = 0

I know "dividing by zero" is impossible, but the number infinity is not recognized as a "real" number, yet zero, which is just the opposite of the same concept, is.

In differential calculus, however, infinity and zero are used to to say "as this value approaches 0, (or infinity), what happens to this value?

In the boundaries one sets for a mathematicle equation, it is impossible for infinity to exist, because a number is a finite object, and can be subtracted, or divided out of an equation. I think of infinity as a constant line, that runs through space and time, and flows onto your paper, through it and out the other end, and you just call on it to solve problems posed by the trilogical chip


As far as gravity having speed, that (in my mod) is what I propose "dark matter" is. I wrote up a long treatise on it, but basically it is matter travelling in the opposite "direction" of the speed of light squared, the dark area of the fractal image.....



I know I am full of it, but it is fun.


EDIT: OH MAN I AM SO SORRY
I did it again, I just reply to the e-mail that says someone has replied to a forum I have subscribed to. So again I posted brainstorming on the tech list thread.... sorry.

[Leland]

The difficulty in coming up with mathematical future inventions is that nothing simple won't do... simple things have been figured out already and there's no reason to assume that any of that will be forgotten. The best bet is to concentrate on computer-heavy areas like experimental math or algorithms for this and that.

[Jeremy Buloch]

Ok I updated the list again. I deleted entomology because its part of Zoology.

-Biology

-Chemistry

-Physics

-Mathmatics

-Computers

-Social Science & Philosophy

~new ones~

-Astronomy

-Ecology

-Forensic ~ Police enhancements

-Engineering

-Geology

-Oceanography

-kinesiology

-Diamondtology ~ mining resources etc.

-zoology

-Theology

- Archeology

- etymology

- audiology

- History

- Meteorology
-J.B.-