Roman Empire

[tanelorn]

Originally posted by fairline
Have you thought of using multiple units files, as with Red Front or Imperium Romanum to give upgrades rather than using up additional slots?

Man, I had the exact same thought, just before I read your post. There is this small program that automates the whole proccess I am playing with, for the 1821 thing (which will have to wait for December, with my exams and all).
Example: change Cataphractii to Bucelarii to Optimates to late Cataphracts.
This enables the middle Imperial Roman/ late Imperial Roman/ Byzantine swap.
Is there a way to affect civ/ruler names in the rule files? It doesn't seem to work for me, since it seems the running game overrides these fields (you know, change ruler names at the start of each era/ file swap, or change say the Huns to Mongols)
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This doesn't even begin to describe how good it feels.
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[Palaiologos]

Actually i had thought of that "Red front" style multiple files, but i lacked the knowledge to do it.

Valuk, i was planning to post a picture of Akritas ,among others, but found no time to scan it from Osprey's. If it is not done by tommorow you will have to wait for two weeks.

O Panathinaikos tous eliose, alla poloi floroi eiste re paidi mou. Oute pano me Kolokotroni, oute sinthimata, oute tipota. Mono duo fores o ethnikos umnos(apo tous filathlous, oute kan apo ta megaphona) kai ena geloio sinthima "Tourkoi, Tourkoi, mas pernete tsibou....".



I think there is one mounted at the previous page, extreme left in the Roman troops of the 9th century.

[fairline]

You need to create a batch file that the player runs at the appropriate time after saving the game to change units and rules files (include a text prompt in the events file). Have at look at the batch file 'redfront.bat' in Capt Nemo's Red front scenario (edit in notepad rather than run it) to see an example of the necessary structure. You should include the file Delevent.exe to wipe the old events from the scenario save game before overwriting the new events file.

You need to create as many units/terrain/rules/events etc files as necessary for your scenario and call them units1, units2 etc - these are copied over the current unit file when the batch file is run.

[fairline]

I realise you plan to make your own units, Palaiologos, but feel free to use any of these that I've posted on the graphics showcase thread. BTW, all the later Romans have shield designs/colours taken from the Notitia.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=1459401&t=1256#post1459401

[Palaiologos]

Thanks, i propably will.

Is it true that remnants of the gallant Varangian guard survived until the very siege of Constantinople? There are obscure reports.

I have read that they were replaced with a Cretan unit at the 1420s.

If this is so, were they the same Cretans that, fortified in a tower, repelled wave after wave of Turks that they were finally allowed to leave in peace, in honour of their courage?

[Palaiologos]

Were Dromont-type ships (galleys) used by the Arabs as well?
In a Byz.manuscript the Arab fleet is thought to be composed of 1000 dromonts plus other vessels.

Or was it a generic term for galley in Roman military thinking?.

[Palaiologos]

SHIPS:


I plan to give ships decreased stats, to limit their use in naval engagements and transportation. At most they will have A:3 D:2. Naval bombardment was not that common in the Middle ages.

Ship units

Quintireme? not sure.
Galley/Dromont (for Romans).
Dromont w Greek fire(Romans only, any better name?).
Great Galley

All will be able to transport 1-2 units apart from the Dromont w Greek fire. I know that even later Roman ships were not equiped with cannons, as were those of Venice,Genoa and Piza, but i will allow that in the scenario. (talking about the Great galley).

[Palaiologos]

MAP:

It seems i am not going to use my own map. I have found an excellent map here(Harlan's Greater Europe or something) which i will modify a bit (Greece and Asia Minor).

CITIES:

I have an idea about the airbase. They will be "Towns" that will be defended and captured just like an airbase. They will give the production and food bonus of an airbase. The reason for that is that i believe civ's city refers to production and trade centers. So cities such as Jerusalem, Antioch, Thessalonica, Ragusa etc.. will be included as normal cities while others such as Germanikeia, Damieta, Patra, in which important events took place, but had no economic value will be represented by the "Town", or whatever i name the airbase.

[Palaiologos]

Originally posted by fairline
I realise you plan to make your own units, Palaiologos, but feel free to use any of these that I've posted on the graphics showcase thread. BTW, all the later Romans have shield designs/colours taken from the Notitia.

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...56#post1459401

The Notitia was illustrated???

[Palaiologos]

I have the road network of Britain, Asia Minor and the Balkans.

Any info on Aegyptus', Gallia's and Spain's?.

I need major military routes, not simply trade roads.

[fairline]

Originally posted by Palaiologos
The Notitia was illustrated???

All the surviving copies of the Notitia Dignitatun MS are copies of a single original, the Codex Spirensis, which has now been lost. The 2 copies that have been subsequently been published are dated 1436 (in the Bodleian Library in Oxford) and 1550 (in Munich). The Munich copy was traced from the original Roman document and was published by Otto Seeck. I think that a new reprint is planned (?).

Both versions have virtually all of the Western Field Army shields in colour, and a large number of the Eastern Field Army shields - there are some discrepensies in terms of colour between the two, but they agree on the shield designs.

The two Osprey titles dealing with late Roman infantry and cavalry include a limited selection of shields from the Notitia in colour. 'The Armies and Enemies of Imperial Rome' by Phil Barker (pub WRG) includes complete black and white drawings of the shields, with a colour key. It also includes the order of battle I posted a while back.

[Palaiologos]

Hmm.....

Doesn't anybody have an opinion about the ideas i posted here?

What about the info on the road network?

The ships?

The Dromonts?



Anyway.....


This is my first graphic for the scenario:
A Byzantine emissary(diplomat).

[Stefan Härtel]

Well, most of the info (except for Germania) doesen't really sepparate between civilan and military roads.
It's hard to describe them, but I do have a few maps I can mail you if you want. If so, please mail me at Stefan.Haertel@t-online.de (I'm not so overly keen on posting them here, sorry).
I'll also try and find some info on the Roman navy, but I'm quite sure that there are some people here who can help you with that.

[tanelorn]

Well, early Roman dromonds were around since Diocletian's time. The Romans had no real naval adversaries in the med (mare nostrum), at the time. They had to cope with piracy though. These were small 20+- oars for each bank, that filled the modern corvette role. These were dwarfed by both earlier and later ships. 7thc. dromonds that fought off the Arabs were much, much larger, for instance.

[Palaiologos]

Interesting, but that is not what i asked about the dromonds.

In 745 or 746 a large Arab fleet was destroyed by the Byzantines near Cyprus. The arab fleet is said to heve comprised of 1000 dromonts of which only 3 escaped.

I want to know if the Arabs used Dromonts as well, or was it simply a generic military word for ships in Roman vocabulary.