Next weekend...

[Jimmywax]

MP possibilties

I was just wondering if you were considering a possible MP version of the events. I like the scenario but think it would be a bit tough as is for a PBEM with the constant warfare and all.

[Shaka Naldur]

Originally posted by BeBro
Shaka Naldur, if you have ships, you can trade (as Franks) with North Africa. As Germans, it is even easier if you conquer Southern Italy ASAP, then you can also trade effectively with Byzantium.

not yet, i don´t think i´m going to go for the tech tree,

what techs do you recomend me??

how can i use the village units to get some profit as you said in the readme??

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Shaka Naldur
what techs do you recomend me??

how can i use the village units to get some profit as you said in the readme??

Techs: first better government (dukedome) and better units, then it depends - some go for the big siege engines first, others prefer going for trade.

Villages: some of them are in the right locations for new cities. So if you found a city directly on their places use them to rush something...

[Shaka Naldur]

Originally posted by BeBro


Villages: some of them are in the right locations for new cities. So if you found a city directly on their places use them to rush something...

that´s a good idea, but because there were villages there i didn´t build the cities

[BeBMan]

Well, I don´t see city founding on their locations as cheating, if that´s what you thought.

The villages have two functions, you lose money when they get destroyed, but to balance this out you can use them for rushbuying, when you found cities on that places - I did this to give the player some reasons to protect them from attacks (like a medieval ruler would try to protect his realm)

[Heresson]

I experience problems when I'm dowloading it. Each time I get to some 20% of dowload, it turns itself off?

[BeBMan]

Mhmm...

Just tested it, it worked. But sometimes the game network which hosts my site has some technical trouble, maybe this was the case when you tried it...

[Heresson]

Or perhaps You have some black list out there...

[Heresson]

Is there some other place except for Bernd's site where I can find his game (updated CaC that is)

[BeBMan]

http://www.civfanatics.com/civ2scenmed.shtml

May be I should send it to some others too...

[Heresson]

Thanks. Downloaded it finally. Play as England, just a few turns.

[Shaka Naldur]

I´ve already conquered all the scenarios,
I finished it around 1158 so i didn´t upload the third set of events, and i was a little upset while conquering the cities nothing happen
playing as the franks, once you are organised conquering the saracens and the muslims is very easy,
I don´t know what to do to make it more harder, the threbuchet is very powerfull and the cities are very close, so it´s hard for the ai to do a good job,
making the byzantines and the arabs units cheaper...

i´ve had a lot of fun, and i like it more than the first version, and i really like the 1.0 version

I´ll post a few screenshots afterwards

[Heresson]

I played just a copule of turns, as English.
I can say that the French are no much for me, and they were strong, stronger than Germans
it seems.

Hm... map is much better than in the first version, but still it's not perfect. Not only when it comes to map itself, but also city location. Krolewiec (Koenigsberg) Warsaw and Toru? (Thorn) didn't exist at the time at all. I mind German names used for Polish cities too, as Ukrainian Kiev and byelorussian Mi?sk are in original spelling.
Eastern border of BE isn't fully accurate I think. Western too. City sizes of Byzantine cities aren't accurate. it's also not accurate tio give Branibor (Brandenburg) to the Germans. Not minding it's in wrong place.
The same as in the first version, I dislike those mountains, they don't fit other terrains by colour and anything else, I don't like hills to, but can stand them.
Still I don't like civilisations chosen. Why Ajjubides not Fatimides? Why not Abbasids in Iraq?
Robber barons and vikings in Normanidia are too strong, but it counterweighs weakness of my civ enemies, so it's OK.

[BeBMan]

Thanks for the feedback...

Shaka:

I´ve already conquered all the scenarios,
I finished it around 1158 so i didn´t upload the third set of events, and i was a little upset while conquering the cities nothing happen
playing as the franks, once you are organised conquering the saracens and the muslims is very easy,
I don´t know what to do to make it more harder, the threbuchet is very powerfull and the cities are very close, so it´s hard for the ai to do a good job,
making the byzantines and the arabs units cheaper...

i´ve had a lot of fun, and i like it more than the first version, and i really like the 1.0 version

I´ll post a few screenshots afterwards

Ah, it seems it is still too easy, it is a pity that you could finish it so soon (or you are too good ). I could try to make research slower. Now it is 30/10, I could try 40/10 or 50/10. Or I could give the trebuchet tech only away later (via events), but I have to think about that carefully. Perhaps I should also make improvements more expensive to slow down the general progress...

What was your main strategy? Did you concentrate on researching siege engines, or trade etc...?

Maciej:

Hm... map is much better than in the first version, but still it's not perfect. Not only when it comes to map itself, but also city location. Krolewiec (Koenigsberg) Warsaw and Toru? (Thorn) didn't exist at the time at all. I mind German names used for Polish cities too, as Ukrainian Kiev and byelorussian Mi?sk are in original spelling.
...
Still I don't like civilisations chosen. Why Ajjubides not Fatimides? Why not Abbasids in Iraq?

Well, several cities that are on the map did not exist when the scn starts (even Cairo was founded later). Since the AI is absolutely unable to build them on their correct location, I included them. It is much better for the game than leaving them out completely, and most of them are hidden behind the "fog of war" in the beginning.

Same goes for the civs, the Arab civs simply changed too much during that period (even Almohads is not correct for the beginning) and I had only two civs left. Beginning with Fatimids (instead of Aijubides) would mean that they still run the middle east when the scn ends - this is as inaccurate than any other choice...

[Heresson]

Still I think other choices would be better.
When it comes to Cairo, Fustat can play role of it. Anyway that's a matter of a few years.
In fact I had some idea to be used in such moments. But only for human players, it wouldn't work for AI.

Anyway why did You use name of dinasty
if it can't be proper? Wouldn't it be enough to
name it just "Egypt"? I did that in Komnenai
of the same reasons and I think it is the best choice. Of course it is. It is mine!