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  • #16
    I've seen those bombers before...

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    • #17
      I am looking fo rthe place on my computer to set up what type of program to use when opening certain files.
      Open any folder, go to the View menu and click the Folder Options... (or something of the sort, it´s the last option). Go to the Filetypes tab (again, this may have a slightly different name, as I´m just translating from my Dutch Win98). There you´ll see a list of filetypes and you can say what programs you want to open files with.

      Or you can just open MS Paint and drag the image onto it/open it using the menus.
      Civilization II: maps, guides, links, scenarios, patches and utilities (+ Civ2Tech and CivEngineer)

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      • #18
        *with apologies to the ANZAC for the quick swipe of the thread...*

        Pehaps you'll be able to use this information as well...



        Okay, I followed the above instructions. Here are the results...
        • I can save .bmp's to .gif's now in Paint, but with severe color degridation.
          I get a warning window that states "Saving this format may cause loss in color information. Do you want to continue?

          I cannot open .gif's anymore at all... It trys to do it with MS Paint, but then says "C:\My.bmp was not found"


        Very strange indeed...

        I guess I'll put the .gif's back to IE, so at least I can read them...


        Update.... strangely I CAN read some gif's in certain folders with Paint... but others (the majority) give me that same ol' "C:\My.bmp was not found" message...

        FMK.

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        • #19
          Darth, Darth, Darth...

          I've seen those bombers before...
          I was going to get to that I wanted to know if I can use them in this scenario, ABDA Squadron ? I meant ask and I wouldn't release these units in it without your permission (though you did also post these as a preview on the Apolyton mainpage! ) But the final word is yours....

          FMK: Still have that problem I see. Can you open existing GIFs of Civ2 units? Because if you can then you can fix your problem. Open an existing units.gif and then paste whatever you want there and save it as a GIF again and you should have no color loss. Does this work/make sense? Good luck!
          Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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          • #20
            Re: *with apologies to the ANZAC for the quick swipe of the thread...*

            Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh
            I can save .bmp's to .gif's now in Paint, but with severe color degridation.
            Do the bitmaps already have the Civ2 palette? Paint probably uses the standard Windows palette instead. Besides, those GIF probably can´t be read by Civ2. I think the only way Paint can save the correct GIF format and palette is like The ANZAC said.

            I get a warning window that states "Saving this format may cause loss in color information. Do you want to continue?
            That means your bitmaps are true color bitmaps, without a 256 color palette. As I stated above, this causes Paint to use the standard Windows palette instead of the Civ2 palette you´d want, causing the quality loss.

            I cannot open .gif's anymore at all... It trys to do it with MS Paint, but then says "C:\My.bmp was not found"
            Those files are the ones located in "C:\My Documents\..." right? The spaces in the file/directory names aren´t handled correctly. To solve it, add "%1" (including the what´s their name again... gänsenfüsschen as my Latin teacher used to say, if you catch my drift... quotation marks, of course) to the end of that line. And if the %1 was already there, add the double quotation marks around those.

            Update.... strangely I CAN read some gif's in certain folders with Paint... but others (the majority) give me that same ol' "C:\My.bmp was not found" message...
            Those are folders/files without any spaces in them, as you might have deduced.
            Civilization II: maps, guides, links, scenarios, patches and utilities (+ Civ2Tech and CivEngineer)

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            • #21
              Okay, I did some more playing around...

              Here's what I got...


              Mercator: You are right about the My Documents thing...
              All of my scenarios I put into a folder called "SCENARIOS" within "My Documents". However, I have always had the folder "My Documents" named simply "Documents". BUT, when I start to explore my way through the folder I see the space that you are talking about...
              For some reason the path reads : C:\My Documents\SCENARIOS\... even though the folder is actually just named 'Documents" as it appears on my desktop.

              SO, I tried this... I copied and pasted an entire .gif file from RedFront onto my desktop. It originally was in the "C:\My Documents\SCENARIOS\... " address. Now that the file is not withtin the old folder, I can open it without issue.

              So then I tried opening up a units.gif from RedFront (using the same 'take-it-to-the-desktop' technique... it opened fine, and I pasted a whole new set of units in there, and was able to save it as a .gif WITHOUT any color loss!!!! So when I start with the correct Civ2 pallete it will incorporate the new artwork correctly.

              So now I don't know how to solve this destination issue... There shouldn't be a space for this "My_Documents" because I renamed "My_Documents" to "Documents" a long time ago. Even when I manually remove the space between My and Documents it don't work. I suppose the quick fix would be to permanently move my 'SCENARIOS' folder to the desktop. I guess that isn't too bad. I got a little confused by your post Mercator...the stuff about the 1% etc... but i guess thats okay, cause I can simply move my folders around... If you see a quick way to fix this, that would be cool, but if not, I guess I'm doin' okay.

              Thanks alot fellas,
              FMK.

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              • #22
                Re: Okay, I did some more playing around...

                Originally posted by Field Marshal Klesh
                However, I have always had the folder "My Documents" named simply "Documents".
                That´s just the name of the shortcut, not the name of the actual folder.

                Even when I manually remove the space between My and Documents it don't work.
                I´d leave that alone, if I were you.

                I got a little confused by your post Mercator...the stuff about the 1% etc... but i guess thats okay, cause I can simply move my folders around... If you see a quick way to fix this, that would be cool, but if not, I guess I'm doin' okay.
                What exactly did you do to make Paint the standard program to open GIF´s? I figure you used the edit button to edit the open action, and changed the IE stuff in there to Paint.
                An easier way of doing what I was trying to explain is as follows:
                • Go to those filetypes again.
                • Go to edit for the open action for bitmaps (You don´t have the space-problem with bitmaps, right?
                • Copy the things you see there, that is the command used to execute the opening. (I think it looks like this
                  "C:\PROGRA~1\ACCESS~1\MSPAINT.EXE" "%1"
                • Paste this into the opening options for GIF´s.


                By the way, the %1, is some sort of a system variable. This %1 will be replaced by the filename you´re trying to open. When there are spaces in the filename, only the part up to the space is considered as being the first argument (indicated by %1). By placing double quotes around the %1, the entire thing between the quotes is considered, instead of just the part upto the space.
                Civilization II: maps, guides, links, scenarios, patches and utilities (+ Civ2Tech and CivEngineer)

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                • #23
                  Thats it! Got it. Sweet.

                  Thank you very much Mercator for your patience. I am not too good with these things, but I finally got it. All file types can now be opened and saved. I can work with Civ files, but I must start with a proper Civ pallete first. Excellent!

                  I was so dissapointed when I could work with gifs because I looked at them with IE. I am very happy to have these newfound abilities!

                  Thanks again,

                  FMK.

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                  • #24
                    I hate to do this to ya' Anzac, but I have to pirate your thread for a minute too.

                    Darthveda, when I go to your site I can't download the Korean War scenario. How come?
                    "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." -- General George S. Patton
                    "Guinness sucks!" -- Me

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                    • #25
                      No problem Jimmywax, I still need Darth Veda to answer one question too: Can I use some of your planes?
                      Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                      • #26
                        Again Darth, Darth, Darth....

                        What's the verdict on the planes? Don't leave me hanging, I don't do well with cliff hangers.
                        Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                        • #27
                          ANZAC, a while ago I asked Darthveda the same question about the ships in 'Battle of the Atlantic'/Hunters and the Hunted'/The 'Cruel Sea' and never got any responce. I took this silence to mean he had no problem with me using them before he did
                          'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
                          - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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                          • #28
                            Case: you really need to shorten your title for the scenario

                            Darth: Speak now or forever hold your peace..... mwahahahaha!
                            Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by The ANZAC
                              Case: you really need to shorten your title for the scenario
                              Yeah

                              I thik that I'll go with 'The Cruel Sea' because:
                              a) It sounds cool
                              b) There's a movie of that same name about corvettes in WW2
                              c) There's a rather good Aussie band of the same name
                              'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
                              - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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                              • #30
                                I was just wondering how it was going Anzac.

                                And I see that Darthveda still hasn't replied to either of our questions.
                                "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." -- General George S. Patton
                                "Guinness sucks!" -- Me

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