New scenario: Greek war of independence 1821-1832

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What are those buildings in the countryside?

[gerryandersson]

You mean those tempel like buildings? I think they are tempels or historical ruins/buildings.

(Make them "clerer"/smaler varwnos)

[Varwnos]

well i need some cool icons for the wonders, especially these:

-the Parthenon
-byzantine churches -not ok to use the one with Hagia Sofia (the great church in constantinople)

also regular icons for churches

i will certainly use many icons already found elsewhere, but dont want to just draw everything from one or two scenarios

as for the buildings in the countryside, i think that you mean the "towns"/suburbs. they are food providing terrain. The "temples" are the "greek monument" terrain which produces a lot of trade. They are near the main areas of historical ruins/monuments in Greece. I will probably have indivudual names for most of them (using the railroads terrain as another "temple" terrain) They are in these areas:

-Athens (the agora, parthenon, pillars of olympian zeus etc)

-Thessalonike (ancient greek market, roman palace of the tetrarchy etc)

-Ioannena (not in the city itself, but near it are the ruins of the oracle of dodoni, delphi is also somewhere near)

-Sparta (no real major ruin here, pretty much nothing remains in Sparte to signify the importance of the city in the past, thus Herodotus was proved correct in his saying)

-Epidavros (this isnt a city, its the ancient theatre of EPidavros, the best preserved and biggest in Greece, in the eastern edge of the Pelloponese)

-asia minor coast (representing several ruins there)



as for making the "temple" image smaller, i dont know if it would still be clear, i might alter it a bit to make it look more like a ruin though, if anyone wants to do it for me i accept!

you didnt say what 7nth civ you would like to have, since the game isnt hardcore historical (then there would only be 3 civs) there can be some fun civ around if i had Crete in the map (only a very small part is there) i would have had the cretans

[Varwnos]

Hi again!

i have been editing some of the units and creating new ones, here is a new one (next to an older one so you can see how they mix together)

certainly this is the best unit i made so far!

[gerryandersson]

From IMPERIUM ROMANUM
Scenario by Bernd Brosing

[Varwnos]

cool i will take the partenon icon and probably a couple of others as well from imperium romanum

also the sword sequence for fighting is very cool, i may use that or edit my own

what do you think of the cannon unit?

[Varwnos]

finished with the legs. i have to say that i am tired of working on the units, so i only plan to create one more unit: greek cavalry. Ok, a lot of work, and December is getting closer and closer!

other news: the temple icon went away (perhaps it shouldnt have) i will probably make some terrain with collapsed columns, there is a terrain with colapsed trees and i shall probably edit that

here are the units with their new, stronger legs

[Varwnos]

here is the new terrain for ancient ruin. i might alter it a further bit, and may create a seperate terrain for more preserved historic sites (not sure) your thoughts on the pic?
to make it i edited the collapsed tree terrain from one of the lotr scenarios

[gerryandersson]

The cannon unit is very nice

The ancent ruin to.

[Varwnos]

i re-worked most of the untis and they look a LOT better.
the scenario is almost complete, since i have set all of the parameters for every nation apart from the "island greeks" which i plan to individualise a bit more, creating one or two special units for them. now i will place the icons (a few days work if i am very lazy) and then write a few events (nothing much, lord byron is the only certain one). technology wont be a major issue in the game, although the settler unit will only be available through research, and probably another strong unit. the scenario will play a lot like the "pelloponesian war" only in a much larger scale. the ottoman empire sadly is very boring to play, since i couldnt do anything else since it starts with almost all of the mainland cities (apart from 5) as things stand the vilaeti of Ioannena isnt much fun either, but since the game wont be hardcore historical the macedonian greeks are fun, and the epirotan greeks as well. the protagonist is the southern greks, and island greeks are challenging. here is a pic of the reworked units, with some totally new ones i made, the horse unit is one i am especially fond of

ps: Gerry (or anyone else) do you have any cool ottoman footsoldier unit to propose? i am not very happy with the one i am using at the moment. also an egyptian mercenary unit (i am lazy)

[gerryandersson]

Form...

'de Historibus Europae v. 2.2 by Henrik Lohmander
and
Brown Man's Burden II: the Scramble for Africa (Ver. 1.1),
by Carl Fritz
and
The Seven Years War
by Michael Jeszenka
and
History by "Soundave" (I think)

[Varwnos]

cool selection Gerry i will use the first unit for the egyptian mercenary, and another one of those for the ottoman empire/vilaeti of ioannena settler unit.

the scenario will be complete in a week or so.

techs to be researched include:
-french intervention (vilaeti of ioannena tech, provides the unit "french regular", and probably the settler unit as well

-english intervention (all greek "nations" tech, provides the unit "english regular" and the settler unit

-Navarino battle (ottoman tech, provides the unit "settler")

these are the techs will be be researched at some time in the game, not realistically researchable untill very late (and if you have lots of cities) techs will include "the bavarians in Greece" (unit bavarian regular, all greek "nations" tech) and "ottoman decline" with probably some other unit.


what do you think of the state of things? i mean its pretty much complete atm certainly it has surpassed its original scope, i think that it will be one of the good scenarios around, and i am happy about that

other notes:

special units of each nation:

macedonian greeks: macedonian philikos (strong footsoldier)

epirotan greeks: rebel village (unique unit, although some are already in the map in the start of the game)

island greeks: island philikos (strong footsoldier) & exploding ship unit (missile)

southern greeks: the strong cavalry unit (also the greek leader unit and lord byron & guard, but they are unique, and not produced)

vilaeti of ioannena: unique footsoldier, probably some unit for Ali Pasha as well (not sure)

ottoman empire: unique footsoldier, unit for Kioutachis (general)

-added unit "cannonball".



edit: added new techs to be researched: (some already have one or more, while others are not allowed to research a few)

-epirotan heroes (heroe unit)

-19th century values

-armatoloi (strong footsoldier "armatolos" unit)

also hypothetical tech: Ioannenan searule

therefore now the tech sector is respectable, although not in the level of DAROE But i am very confident about the scenario alltogether.

Only the icons remain to be done, then i will beta-test the nations, and then i will release the scenario, probably at the start of December

[Arthedain]

Varwnos, I just come across a whole bunch of Greek units made by Tanelorn. Maybe you want a look @ them?

[Varwnos]

I probably have, if they are the ones posted in these threads, but are you suggesting that you like them more than mine? they are cool, but mine are ok too i think

anyway the units are complete, unless (Very unlikely) i bother to make another one or two. there is room for another 5 units i think, but frankly i dont see the point, the final unit i will have is the bavarian regular. apart from the units made by me fairline is the creator of most(or probably all, i am not sure)

btw who do i have to contact when the scenario is finished?

[Varwnos]

here are ALL of my greek units Gerry enjoy they include improvements of old ones, and some never before seen do tell me what you think of them