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  • Originally posted by curtsibling
    On the topic of the scen:
    I hate to bring this up, but Glasgow city should really be in co-ords 123,35.

    I live there, so I should know!
    Yeah, you´re a Scottish?
    Deutscher Meister 2004: WERDER BREMEN

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    • Guilty as charged, yer honour!
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      • And i noticed that Greece is an oriental member.

        We were already an independant nation at the time(actually an Agglo-Russian protectorate) and causing as much troube to the Turks as we could. We even declared war on them in 1897 despite having no army!

        And what is this Candia city in Crete?

        It should be either Chandax or Herakleion.
        "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

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        Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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        • I agree with Pericles.
          Athens should be with the British.

          Herakleion is a fitting city for crete, I would think.
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          • Only Athens though. Thessalonica and Crete were liberated in 1912. Actually Crete had uprised earlier but officially it joined Greece in 1912.
            "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

            All those who want to die, follow me!
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            • Originally posted by curtsibling
              On the subject of the scen...It looks very, very nice.

              Fairline has outdone himself, the units are among the best...ever!

              Exile has cemented 1870's place as one of the CIV2 classics.

              That silver fleece medal was well deserved!

              Now where is Fairline's medal?!
              Thanks Curt, but I haven't even finished a scenario yet, let alone a classic one like the recipients of the award have, so I don't even remotely deserve a Silver Fleece. I have a Cycling profficiency badge and a bronze swimming certificate from my school days, so I'm happy
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              • @Pericles:

                I agree.
                I would also like to see Glasgow not occupying the area where Aberdeen would be...

                Aberdeen was/is a dire dump.

                Glasgow was the 2nd most important city in the British Empire.
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                • Originally posted by fairline


                  Thanks Curt, but I haven't even finished a scenario yet, let alone a classic one like the recipients of the award have, so I don't even remotely deserve a Silver Fleece. I have a Cycling profficiency badge and a bronze swimming certificate from my school days, so I'm happy
                  Well, the medal is about contribution to the community.

                  No need to be modest!
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                  • Some answers . . . . .

                    Ok, as far as Glasgow is concerned; See how few squares there are in the British Isles on this map? In the context of this scen, Britain MUST be a premier industrial power. SO, it was essential that ALL the squares available be utilized. In order to facilitate the use of all available squares in the interest of creating GB's industrial potential, I had to place Glasgow where I did.

                    I just love it that all you guys are soooooooo willing to correct me, but perhaps you should take a peek at AoW. Are the cities in Scotland placed to your satisfaction in that scen?

                    I bet they are.

                    And as far as Greece is concerned--take a look at the ImpRead file. IIRC, seems like I did place a disclaimer there about certain cities belonging to whomever--in the interest of playability. Does anyone EVER read that stuff?

                    When it comes right down to it, I run up against the limitations of the Civ2 engine over and over again;

                    I'd use an even larger map--if I could find one.
                    I'd place every major city on every continent--if 255 wasn't the limit.
                    I'd make each and every nation its own civ--if I weren't limited to 7 and barbs.
                    I'd make the RR and oceanic movement more realistic--if the program didn't do weird things when I did.

                    Civ2 is the only canvas I have, at present, to paint upon. When a better one comes along . . . I'll use it.

                    Now, please stop carping about minutiae and just enjoy the damn scenario.

                    And I haven't voiced one word of complaint about all these WWII scenarios that are currently glutting the Civ2 world. Until now. Um, how many WWII scens do we need? How many are truly unique? How many are simply rehashes of prior scens with a passel of new super-cutesy Nemo graphics? For my money, if I wanted to play a WWII game, I'd just load up Axis and Allies. Civ2 is an infinitely flexible template and is therefore ideal for creating games that deal with rare topics and periods. How many Franco-Prussian War scens are there? How many Peloponesian War scens are there? How many 30 Years War scens are there?
                    There is fertile ground out there, but very few of us seem to be sowing it. Instead, too many are plowing up the same tiny plot of ground--over and over again, like rabid groundhogs.

                    end rant. lol.
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                    • Wow!

                      Hey! There's no need to intensify defence shields, Captain!

                      To be frank:
                      I reckon Glasgow could be in its proper place and still have big factory output.
                      Exile, but a bit of feedback is what this thread is for.

                      I am not 'carping'...
                      I am making a valid point that my home city is several clicks away from where it is meant to be.

                      I would hardly deem this as minutiae, sir.

                      But worry not, I am not about to let a minor detail ruin my fun of your sublime work, dude.

                      But please do not regard my and other poster's comments as a slight on your ability.

                      We are the players, your CIV2 fellows, not an arena of detractors.

                      I have the highest regard for your scenario, and it's impact - as I have said many times.

                      We are a community; we create scens to have fun.
                      And if they are remakes of previous ones, so what?

                      I welcome as many scens as there can be made, I do not reject any based on content or type.
                      There is no room for elitism in what we do, it is meant to be fun, not a rivalry.

                      I would say that the past is best left in the past.
                      You are here now, at the zenith of your work, forget the previous opponents you had.

                      I find that old enemies are best left in your wake.

                      So let's be reasonable.

                      And yes, the CIV2 engine is limited, but we all strive to push those borders.

                      Let's keep doing that!
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                      • Relax

                        Look at the smileys, Curt. And don't take it seriously. For some of us, venting is actually fun.

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                        • LOL!

                          Well, I am just trying to keep everyone happy...
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                          • Exile, I am playing as Japan in Imp2 on the hardest difficulty level in SP and am actually finding it quite challenging. I enjoy taking the low man on the totem pole in your scenarios (Spain in AoW, and Japan here) and turning them into a world power.
                            Your trading system is excellent, mucho props on making trade such a big part of your scenarios.
                            IMHO, setting up trades routes is one the funnest things to do in Civ2, but sadly this feature gets left out of many scenarios.

                            Once again, thanks for a great scenario and I love the Raw Materials and Mfg. Goods graphics fairline!
                            "The more things change the more they stay the same."

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                            • Yep, this ranks as a true classic scenario!

                              Long live 1870!
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                              • Wow, for a moment I was afraid that 2 of my Civ "idols" were about to fight each other!

                                Glad to see the venting was just for fun!

                                And BTW, just keep on doing such a great work, both of you, you manage to amaze me so often!!

                                PS: Exile, if you take a look at the "Another AOW" pbem, you'll see that with early support from the main powers, Turkey can become quite efficient at tech research!
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