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  • How come no Tetrarchs or Locusts were deployed? Not that they'd be much more than Tiger bait.
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    • German POWs?

      IIRC the germans had about 1500 casualties in market garden, 500 dead and 1000 wounded. the allies lost more than 18.000.

      Now, i am pretty sure there were some german POWs but i would wager that they were not more than 10-20.

      Is a unit slot worth it?
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      • "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

        All those who want to die, follow me!
        Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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        • Originally posted by Boco
          How come no Tetrarchs or Locusts were deployed? Not that they'd be much more than Tiger bait.
          AFAIK, the British only had a single squadron of Tetrachs, and it was allocated to the 6th Airborne division, not the 1st. I suspect that the reason that it wasn't transfered was due to the shortage of glider space which hampered the invasion by forcing the drop to be spread over several days. The tanks would have been worth their weight in gold though - the unarmoured jeeps which made up the 6th's recon regiment weren't much use against the determined, but lightly equipped, German troops the unit encountered on the road into Arhnem. Some tanks could have really made the difference by allowing the relief of the British troops around the bridge.

          The Tetrarchs dropped with the 6th during Operation Varsity, the crossing of the Rhine. The drop doesn't seem to have gone well though, and, from memory, only a couple of the tanks survived the landings. (I know all this because I recently borrowed a history of the 6th AB div seeking some info in it's component 5th Brigade's role in Malaya).
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          • Originally posted by Palaiologos
            German POWs?

            IIRC the germans had about 1500 casualties in market garden, 500 dead and 1000 wounded. the allies lost more than 18.000.

            Now, i am pretty sure there were some german POWs but i would wager that they were not more than 10-20.

            Is a unit slot worth it?

            Hmmmmmmm, good point. Maybe I´ll leve them out.

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            • Progress Update

              Today I´ve got the unit file for you. Fell free to critisize the choice of the units I would be glad for any additional information.

              Three more things too add:
              * I may change the heavy artillery graphic.
              * There are still three slots left. Feel free to add some unit wishes .
              * And the file .....

              edit: units.gif deleted

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              • Have you considered including Dutch Partisans? The British failure to fully trust and enlist the support of the Danish resistance movement was a significant, though overated, blunder.
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                • yes, I thought about involving the dutch partisans but I had no really good idea how to implement them and so I decided to leave them out.

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                  • A coupla of traditional settings for irregulars:
                    • Be stingy with the Ignore ZOC flag and give it to the partisans.
                    • Give role 6 to partisans and handicap them by restricting options in Game.txt. Restrict things so that they can only look into cities and/or ambush units.
                    • Give partisans 0-1df but hp/fp > 6. When fortified on good terrain they can damage units that attack them.

                    It all depends how they can fit into your unit mix.
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                    • Today I´ve got the unit file for you. Fell free to critisize the choice of the units I would be glad for any additional information.
                      Jim Panse, The units are very good. Especially i like the camo of your units.

                      BTW, I have four notes for you.

                      First to your german motorized inantry. Most of german trucks had only two axles. German trucks with three axles were used in the thirties and at an early stage of the war, for example the so called "Krupp Protze". Later the whermacht mainly used 3ton trucks. The best was Opel Blitz.

                      So i would suggest to you this unit:


                      Second, i notice, that you use my "early" version of a sdkfz 234 Puma.
                      If you want you can use this one (i think it´s a more realistic version):


                      Third, i suggest to you the following British motorized unit. It´s a Ford F60. This truck was produced from Ford Canada and highly used by the British army:


                      And last but not least i have posted a Kradschützen unit in the ww2-show-thread.

                      Good luck to your scenario

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                      • @ Daily Danger: Wow, your units are fantastic. Thank you very, very much!

                        I´ll soon post an updated units file!

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                        • Ok, here comes the units.gif!

                          * Changed the (mot.) Infantry Coy of the 1st Airborne Army;
                          * Changed the lorried Infantry Coy of the XXX Corps;
                          * Also changed the SdKfz 234/2 Puma;
                          * Added the Kradschützen Komp.; (one more: fantastic graphic Daily Danger )
                          * And added a unique german unit, Field Marshal Model (to spice up the game; as you know, the dutch resistance gave the position of Model´s HQ to the Allies but they won´t believe them .....)

                          Ok, one slot is still left. Any other suggestions? (exception: the dutch partisans)

                          edit: gfx deleted.

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                          • Is anyone willing to "update" the P-47 Thunderbolt graphic?

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                            • Is it civilians on the lowest row, second from the left?
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                              • @ arthedain: I believe that would be the Dutch resistance
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