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  • "Bolivar's Dream" has been finally released!

    I posted this thread in the Spanish Site Forum first, but it seems that our beloved forum has been invaded by Civ3 fans

    Any Civ2 fans know that Jesús Balsinde (aka Jay Bee, our beloved Spanish Forum mod) created a scenario that would be a Latin American version of his "Spanish Pride, Iberian Pride": Seven Latin American civilizations starting just like in a normal Civ2 game but in a Latin American map, from Southern USA states to Patagonia.

    The scenario was finished loooong time ago (~2000), but Jay Bee became lazy and never released it. We even did a PBEM playtest (still at play) to test its multiplayer capabilities.

    Any months ago, Jay Bee asked me to finish the scenario and release it. I couldn't at that time, but I never forgot about it and now it's time to release it!

    I've changed as less as possible, not only because I am a lazy b*stard (as El Awrence once said) but because I don't want to spoil the scenario. Just added any sounds, changed any leaders (updated in fact, they are the current leaders), wrote the Civilopedia text for the Wonders of the World and the readme.txt

    The Scenario is Available at <a href="http://spanish.apolyton.net" target="_blank">The Spanish Civilization Site</a>, of course.

    Thank you Jesús for allowing me to spoil your scenario

    THE PLAYERS:

    -Argentinians (Néstor Kirchner)
    -Colombians (Álvaro Uribe)
    -Peruvians (Alejandro Toledo)
    -Mexicans (Vicente Fox)
    -Brazilians ("Lula" da Silva)
    -Cubans (Fidel Castro)
    -Americans aka Gringos (Jorge Caminante Arbusto)

    EDIT: Typo with "Colombians"
    "Son españoles... los que no pueden ser otra cosa" (Cánovas del Castillo)
    "España es un problema, Europa su solución" (Ortega y Gasset)
    The Spanish Civilization Site
    "Déjate llevar por la complejidad y cabalga sobre ella" - Niessuh, sabio cívico

  • #2
    Superb!

    Downloading right now!
    http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.php?title=Home
    http://totalfear.blogspot.com/

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    • #3
      Don't expect graphic marvels, curtsibling. Consider that it is an old scenario. But of course, we're always open to suggestions...
      "Son españoles... los que no pueden ser otra cosa" (Cánovas del Castillo)
      "España es un problema, Europa su solución" (Ortega y Gasset)
      The Spanish Civilization Site
      "Déjate llevar por la complejidad y cabalga sobre ella" - Niessuh, sabio cívico

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      • #4
        Who is "Jorge Caminante Arbusto" commanding the Yankees?


        George something?
        "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

        All those who want to die, follow me!
        Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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        • #5
          You're right, "Jorge" is the spanish form for "George".
          "Caminante" means "Walker" in spanish.
          I hope you'll be able to guess what "Arbusto" means (otherwise, try with babylon.com)
          "Son españoles... los que no pueden ser otra cosa" (Cánovas del Castillo)
          "España es un problema, Europa su solución" (Ortega y Gasset)
          The Spanish Civilization Site
          "Déjate llevar por la complejidad y cabalga sobre ella" - Niessuh, sabio cívico

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          • #6
            Aha!
            "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

            All those who want to die, follow me!
            Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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            • #7
              Edit: damn! too late.
              Civilization II: maps, guides, links, scenarios, patches and utilities (+ Civ2Tech and CivEngineer)

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              • #8
                The scen is worth enough a play, guys. I believe that the easiest civs to start with are probably Argentina and Mexico, and Cuba is the most difficult one
                Trying to rehabilitateh and contribuing again to the civ-community

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                • #9
                  Mexico has a good starting position but... "Poor Mexico, so far from god and so near from the United States" (Porfirio Díaz, president of Mexico)

                  The gringos are the bad guys in this scenario. They don't negotiate (when computer controlled), just crush all opposition. And Mexico is in their way...


                  mmm... maybe I should make Gringos stronger... another city at the beginning or so
                  "Son españoles... los que no pueden ser otra cosa" (Cánovas del Castillo)
                  "España es un problema, Europa su solución" (Ortega y Gasset)
                  The Spanish Civilization Site
                  "Déjate llevar por la complejidad y cabalga sobre ella" - Niessuh, sabio cívico

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                  • #10
                    I am playing as the Americans...Good fun!

                    I used my diplo to grab two barb imperialist rifle dudes, and my conquest has begun!

                    Next is Tijuana!
                    http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.php?title=Home
                    http://totalfear.blogspot.com/

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                    • #11
                      Little Aesthetic Nitpick: "Columbia/ns" should be "Colombia/ns". That's the official name even in English (check your atlas/dictionary/almanac), despite the repeated attempts by a random number of ill informed people to make it otherwise (kinda like "old habits die hard", I guess).
                      DULCE BELLUM INEXPERTIS

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                      • #12
                        Indeed. Colombia is Colombia. Not Columbia.

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                        • #13
                          OK, I'll correct it soon.
                          "Son españoles... los que no pueden ser otra cosa" (Cánovas del Castillo)
                          "España es un problema, Europa su solución" (Ortega y Gasset)
                          The Spanish Civilization Site
                          "Déjate llevar por la complejidad y cabalga sobre ella" - Niessuh, sabio cívico

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                          • #14
                            On the download page, the image link links to celtiber.zip, not bolivar.zip. I mistakenly downloaded the wrong scenario :\
                            -rmsharpe

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                            • #15


                              Thank you rmsharpe, I'll correct it ASAP

                              EDIT: Corrected.
                              "Son españoles... los que no pueden ser otra cosa" (Cánovas del Castillo)
                              "España es un problema, Europa su solución" (Ortega y Gasset)
                              The Spanish Civilization Site
                              "Déjate llevar por la complejidad y cabalga sobre ella" - Niessuh, sabio cívico

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