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  • #46
    Very very nice! Especially that I love Byzantium and that I love violet... In what game was it?

    I cut down on wars and tsrted modernising my state.
    At first I couldn't afford much but later managed to
    place a hjudge and a gouvernor in all my numberous provinces which I thought would never happen. Meanwhile there was a new "beyish" problem but I took the middle choice to not trouble myself with that. And when I fiunished it, and started reaching Spain in technology (still far behind England and France especially), and started introducing my heavy fortification program (already fortified to maximum for me level all the fortresses along the western borders, and in Austria, and started working over Russian border), here was a new problem with beys and I took the drastic option. New great civil war started, but I just finished it... Succesfully, I haven't lost a single province, got my stability back. Sadly meanwhile there was another proposition of getting less backword, but I had enough revolts already, You can believe me.
    My questions;
    -can I pay back a lend before the deadline? How?
    -All are building a lot of units, only most of my vassals (except for Venice)
    don't do it. Why?
    -What exactly causes that a province belongs to one or another trade center?
    -Can You create new trade centers?
    -again. how do I claim one's throne?
    "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
    I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
    Middle East!

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Heresson
      My questions;
      -can I pay back a lend before the deadline? How?
      -All are building a lot of units, only most of my vassals (except for Venice)
      don't do it. Why?
      -What exactly causes that a province belongs to one or another trade center?
      -Can You create new trade centers?
      -again. how do I claim one's throne?
      1. Nope. You cannot.
      2. Some vassals get a bit passive - could have something to do with the fact they have to give you the money they should have built troops for
      3. Among other things the province owners trade efficiency, his knowledge of surrounding provinces, trade levels of owners of surrounding CoTs etc.
      4. Not without cheating (I mean editing ). You can add CoTs by editing the scanario file or by editing events.
      5. You need to have a Royal Marriage. You can then claim their throne (it will destroy relations to all other countries you have RMs with though)
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      • #48
        Thanks for answers.

        "
        You need to have a Royal Marriage. You can then claim their throne (it will destroy relations to all other countries you have RMs with though)"

        No matter, he he he. So how do I get their throne, then?
        "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
        I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
        Middle East!

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        • #49
          You just get a Casus Belli on them. Then you still have to declare war and grab the land you claimed. I think so at least since I never used the option.
          Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
          Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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          • #50
            Ok. I had some problems with the game, it kept crushing but later fortunatelly stopped. Now my problem is that I
            vassalised Oman and wanted to annex it and Venice (3 trade centers!) My problem was that earlier I convinced my dear vassals Switzerland and Venice to ally with me. Now I found the alliance is gone. Perhaps because they started to hate me again. Ok. I stated giving Venice gifts and convinced it to ally with me again, it is my vassal for
            300 years or so, and it loves me now, but still I cannot offer it annex. Perhaps it has something to do with this;
            "... you need to have the favour rating over 190 (OK!), and OR as a result of peace treaties. I hate those abbreviations in the game. How can I know what they mean? So, what's
            this OR, and how should I get it?

            One more thing. Even if I guarant someone's independance and then someone attacks it, I still haven't got a casus belli for them. WHY?
            "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
            I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
            Middle East!

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            • #51
              It's "... you need to have the favour rating over 190, OR as a result of peace treaties", not "and OR" so I don't think it's an abbreviation (although I'm not sure what they mean with that "result of peace treaties"

              Are you and Venice both at peace? You can't annex a vassal when they or you are at war.
              In een hoerekotje aan den overkant emmekik mijn bloem verloren,
              In een hoerekotje aan den overkant bennekik mijn bloemeke kwijt

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              • #52
                We are at peace, we are allied... I just don't get it.
                "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                Middle East!

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                • #53
                  Muslims can't annex Christians. And that "OR as a result of peace treaties" probably refers to military annexations.
                  Contraria sunt Complementa. -- Niels Bohr
                  Mods: SMAniaC (SMAC) & Planetfall (Civ4)

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                  • #54
                    Damn. So that's it.
                    I have Polish version, I forgot about that. Dumb me.
                    So this OR isn't any abbreviation, but You can't tell me what is it.
                    Now, I had a big war. I attacked Russia which made England and Aethiopia attack me. I overruned Russia, and now reduced it to Moscow only, captured one English province and succesfully defended myself against its attacks in Italy,
                    still I had a problem when I allied with Sweden and it demanded me attack Denmark. So I did. I had problems there with my Aethiopian war still going, but when I started to win, captured Copenhagen and besieged Bawarian cities, they signed peace treaty and I had to return from my western conquests. Aethiopian war wasn't going too well,
                    so eventually I just took two provinces. My troops seemed to be reduced by a half from just moving from one to another province there!

                    (Another two wars with Denmark and allies brought me possesities in Africa, Brazil, and Germany)
                    Last edited by Heresson; August 2, 2002, 05:33.
                    "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                    I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                    Middle East!

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                    • #55
                      a map,
                      and a question;
                      could somebody, please, tell me, what it tells You in English version when You keep your cursor over "annex" button?
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                      "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                      I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
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                      • #56
                        The Turkish hordes are EVERYWHERE!
                        Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.

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                        • #57
                          Some scary artwork there.
                          One day Canada will rule the world, and then we'll all be sorry.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin
                            Some scary artwork there.
                            What he/she (?) said.
                            "If you are a young gangster on your first date, wouldn't it be awfully embarassing if someone tried to murder you?"
                            - Jack Handey

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                            • #59
                              Unfortunatelly, that is the end.
                              I was just preparing for another conquests in Africa and gathering great army there when the game ended.
                              For Turkish hordes everywhere wait wait until Turkey will enter EU... Yet, sooner You'll see Polish hordes...
                              "I realise I hold the key to freedom,
                              I cannot let my life be ruled by threads" The Web Frogs
                              Middle East!

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                              • #60
                                just how does one revive the byzantine empire? I tried to play them once and got f*cked up immediately.

                                also tried the duchy of Hellas, there is just no way!

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