Swiss Cheese (a Schwyz AAR using the Independent Europe Scenario)

[Heresson]

Reply! Reply now!
Please, my hero.

[Nikolai]

I honestly don't know... I'd guess so, but try to ask it in it's official thread.

[Heresson]

OK, I managed to download it all and transport on my computer. Now I have it all in Independant folder...
What to do with it now? It says;

You are about to install the mod:
1. Extract the files into the EU2-directory

I can't do it now (as I had to transport it on disks),
I tried two things; renaming the folder Europa Universalis2 and puting it in the same place as the real folder - And ok. I opened the game, and it was the mod, but I could not load the scenario, as an error sign appeared - I kept clicking ignore it, and it got to the end, just to crash the game.
(I did that in copied EU2 folder)

My second try was to leave it in folder in EU2 one;

2. Create a special shortcut in order to activate the moddir which this scenario uses. It's actually quite simple, just make a normal shortcut to the Europa Universalis exe-file. Then add; Independent after the last "
3. Play!

Example:
"C:\Europa Universalis 2\eu2.exe" Independent

In the shortcut, there are two lines;
"C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2\EU2.exe"

And I changed it to
"C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2\EU2.exe" Independent

so it's OK. But it doesn't work this way.
There is another line;
(start in -that would make sense)
"C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2"
But I can't make it
"C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2" Independent
As it says it's not right.

What did You do?

[Nikolai]

Actually, I didn't understand much more than you of the download thing and so on, so I decided to use other scenarios I'm afraid. But as I said, ask in the thread. The community over at Paradox is very helpful! I am not nearly as advanced that I can get such things to work if it isn't mentioned in an readme, so I will be of no help.

But try to re-install, it often help on things that you wouldn't believe it would help...

[Kaigon]

Ok, so here I am...
First of all, of the three files you only NEED the DATA file (the smallest one) and you really should download the Leaders and Monarchs as well (together less than 1 MB). The graphics are not needed but recommended.

This is (obviously) your EU2-directory:
C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2
If you still have the zipfiles, extract them in that directory, as the zipfiles creates its own directory, Independent.
As "moddir" is used with this scenario/mod, you don't need another copy of EU2 installed!

In the IES-shortcut, the "Target" should be (as you stated):
"C:\Program Files\Paradox Entertainment\Europa Universalis 2\EU2.exe" Independent

You mustn't change the "Start in"! (It could work, but I doubt it)

You'll need the 1.07 version of EU2 to play this mod and the beta patches are recommended (link, you only need to download the last one, 23rd July)

[Heresson]

Thank You.
Now...
I just have to download the last thing, right? It contains all previous changes as well?

[Heresson]

Hurray! It works! Thank You.
Still, playing Silesia in the worst settings wasn't a good thing. I may have been the strongest state around, but my neighbours all jumped at me finally. I'll try again with better settings. And somehow the culture settings have not been corrected, bah, they are even worse. But I think there's a new rule. A province has the culture of a state that owns it at the time. That's why Podole/Podolia is Polish, Slask/Silesia Czech, and Kostrszyn/Kuestrin German. But why is Gdansk/Danzig German, I will never understand.

I'll posta thread at EU forums concerning cultures in eastern Europe.

[Kaigon]

There's no real historicity in the culture thing... more for fun and balance...

[Heresson]

It may have no big importance when it comes to the western Europe - especially that cultures are about OK there - but it's not anything I like when it comes to eastern Europe, as the original culture location favorised German one; now someone will look at that and see that Gdansk according to it had German culture already in the start of XV century and will get to the point Hitler had a damn right to demand it 5 centuries later. It sounds silly, but people are so ignorant when it comes to eastern european history, that I find it unappropriate to make their ignorance even stronger

[Kaigon]

Germans have still been reduced compared to EU2...
Provinces that were german in EU2 but aren't, in the IES:
Erz (is now czech)
Silesia (is now czech (was actually polish in one of the versions, but the czechs needed to gain some power))
Ostmatch (is now czech)
Odenburg (is now magyar)
I might have forgotten some places...

[Heresson]

No-one thought of making Marseilles Italian or Normandy English just in order to balance the situation.

My view;

Holstein - 1419 Polabian and German, later German
Meklemburg - Polabian and German up to the XVII century
Hinterpommern - Polabian and German up to XVII century
Magdebirg - Polabian and German up to XVII century
Brandenburg - Polabian and German up to XVII century
Kuestrin - Polish, later Polish/German, German finally
Lautzen (Erz) - Luzyczan and German
Saxony - Luzyczan and German at the start, later German
Sudetes - Czech and German at the start, later German
Czech - Czech at the start, later Czech and German
Moravia - Czech at the start, later Czech or Czech/German
Silesia -Polish or Polish/German at the start, later Polish/German
Krakow - Polish
Lwow - Ukrainian/Polish
Podolia - Ukrainian, later Ukrainian/Polish
Wolyn - Ukrainian
Podlasie - Polish
Kujawy - Polish
Major Poland - Polish
Stettin - Polish/German
Danzig - Polish early, Polish/German later
Prussia - Prussian early, Prussian/Polish/German llater,
Polish/German at the end
Memel - Prussian, later German/Lithuanian
Lithuania - Lithuanian, later Polish/Lithuanian
Polesie - Byelorussian, later Byelorussian/Jewish
Kurland - Latvian, German and Ugric, later Latvian/GermanSmolensk should be Byelorussian
etc

when it comes to religion, Wolyn shouldn't be catholic at all for example