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**Traianvs** · December 26, 2002, 08:04

Yup, you can raise the dead

Yeah, i imported my BG1 (tosc) character, a ranger with 100+% stealth, 3 stars in dual wielding (=> 2 scimitars), max proficiency in long bow (2 stars), and then i did some proficiency in scimitars too..

He worked out pretty well, as he had a huge amount of HP, and he could go stealth, make a double hit, gobble up a potion, and do a double hit again (mages usually cast detect invisibility though, but at least it gives me the chance to disrupt their stone skin casting, and other stuff... unfrotunately most have a contingency spell on so even that doesn't always work!)

I also found that poison is a lot less frequent in BG2 than in BG1, BG2 uses way too much confusion, hold, and domination spells.. I found that very annoying, because 1 confusion spell is sufficient to take out 3-4 characters (the result is that my ranger with boots of speed just butchered my party and I couldn't do a thing about it, chaotic commands (or the spell that counters it?) only lasts a short while, and you have to cast it on every party member, so when you're done casting the last spell, the first spell has already weared out!!!)

**Footie Mad** · December 26, 2002, 10:21

Go south near the mountains and hunt some white wolf there, best way of makin an income. And as mentioned above, search all maps and talk to everyone.

**Dis** · December 26, 2002, 15:49

I'm thinking of startin BG1 again. I had to wipe my computer so it's not on right now.

I'm not keen on having that many archers though. How viable is melee in BG1. I depended on it on BG2. I had a monk, minsc, (and the expansion I had a certain bad guy I won't spoil), not to mention vicionia with the crom faer (to raise her strength).

**Dis** · December 26, 2002, 16:14

well so much for that idea. I'm getting a assertion failed at line 302 error. I installed BG1 and the exp and both patches. I really wanted to play too. Oh well.

**Dis** · December 26, 2002, 19:30

ok I finally got this working. Hopefully I catch up to you Darkcloud. I may be able to offer some help. Right now I'm in chapter one. Right outside the friendly Arms inn.

**Straybow** · December 26, 2002, 19:44

The DM plays by the old rules of 2-4 modules per level up, not the XP counting method. These days we only meet a few times each year, so maybe one module finished per year. I've been 14th level for nearly 3 years now

Well, that's hardly a campaign. You just get together and blow the dust off 'em.

**Footie Mad** · December 26, 2002, 20:52

Funny memory (in hindsight

), having my wizard killed with one staff strike 5 reloads in a row, oh the joys of low-levels.

**Dis** · December 26, 2002, 22:29

damn the game keeps crashing in Beregost. It was working perfectly until then. Oh well.

**DarkCloud** · December 27, 2002, 11:51

Btw you let your characters get killed!!! I never do that: if I want someone else i just kick one out, in case i ever want to use that NPC again (some won't want to rejoin though, depending on your reputation)

well, I would rather ditch Jaheira and Montaroon- but I need 1 melee fighter (Jaheira or Khalid) and Ajantis the Paladin can also give me heal, so I'll take a healing-figheter over Jaheira/Khalid

And I can't split them up unless one dies.
I'm also planning on replacing montaroon wiht a cleric.

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ok I finally got this working. Hopefully I catch up to you Darkcloud. I may be able to offer some help. Right now I'm in chapter one. Right outside the friendly Arms inn.

So, how'd you handle the bounty hunter at the FAI?
4 times I ran him around and lost him, got Jaheira/Khalid then killed him
Most recently however, I surrounded him and had 3 guards near; punched him wth my main character disrupting his spell and killed him in 6 rounds

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As for the crashing? Did your computer overheat? Mine used to do that. That might be your problem.

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Go south near the mountains and hunt some white wolf there, best way of makin an income. And as mentioned above, search all maps and talk to everyone.

South of what? I went there and can't find anything?

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The reason I'm leveling so slowly is that I have difficulty set to its lowest level... At least that might be te reason.

In case you didn't know, you are trying to find the bandit camp after the mines (you will get ambushed a lot from now on by bandits when travelling!) but you'll have to find out yourself

Well, bandits are easy to kill...

Also. I don't really want to wander around too mcuh as I'm roleplaying the game, and my characters have a mission. But I'll try for the white wolf! Right after I pick up Ajantis, and find Firebead Elvenhair and give him the Fateful Coin book... I forgot where he was?

Then I need to find Brage and bring him to the clerics...

And stay away from Bassilus

DC: You do realize that they're still quite healable if they're all in the red, right? It's only when their portrait dissapears that they're gone for good...

Oh. I don't use healing potions... They cost too much to use when someone is hit by a poisoned arrow.

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Well, I'll try your suggestions!
Thanks!

**Dis** · December 28, 2002, 04:01

That bounty hunter killed me the first few times. But I had ditched the two evil guys just before fighting him.

So I picked up the two evil guys (you first meet them in the area just outside the keep- but if you turn them down they disappear) and that battle was easy after that. 4 peopel vs 2 people made that a lot easier.

I'm a dwarf fighter btw.

I've been having problems with windows recently, and I think the problems with Baldur's GAte is related to that. I won't be able to continue if I can't go through that one town. I'll have to work on it. I may wipe my hard drive yet again. This Windows 98 SE just isn't working very well.

**Traianvs** · December 28, 2002, 16:29

You need the good patches (there are old and corrupt patches so make sure you have the right one)

They cost too much to use when someone is hit by a poisoned arrow

Well duh, you should have an antidote ready (against poison)
you find those potions quite often, or you can buy them in temples

Wow, settings on easy and you still get killed 4 times when fighting the bounty hunter

ok now I understand the problems with the mines

Your characters are... armed right?

**DarkCloud** · December 28, 2002, 18:24

No you see, I avoided hijm 4 times; then killed him wtih Jaheria/Kahlid.

Well, now I'm doing better than ever!
Chapter 4 and searching in the Cloakwoods.

I have all my characters at lvl 3 except Xzar and Montaroon...

Is charm person ever useful?

How do you killl a vampire dog (can you use metal?) (where can I buy silver arrows?)

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As for a neverwinter nights question?
Does anyone know where I can find a patch from version 1.1 to version 1.3 or something of the sort because the 14 mb download from 1.1 to 2.3 is too much for me to download since I don't have DSL.

**Footie Mad** · December 29, 2002, 09:21

Charm person is useful when fighting enemy parties, if you manage to charm for example a fighter with a sword from the other group just charge him in to the middle of the mess and let him take the punishment while you crush his "friends".

**Traianvs** · December 29, 2002, 10:56

HOly fk, already in cloakwood? so you razed the bandit cmap and everything already huh? wow heh, i actually had most of the map cleared and "adventured" before i went into the cloakwood

This is a map of the entire baldur's gate region, so check it if you think you have missed areas...

Charm person is a devastating, it's always effective in BG1 (BG2 usually has protectiona gainst it, while my chars don't!!) so use it on humans whenever you can (it will be very handy in Baldur's gate city) Btw watch out for sirens, they use charm all the time, which makes them extremely dangerous, because you will have to run away from the infected character or else you will slaughter your own chars... all ye can do is wait (can't remember if dispel magic works... I ususally didn't have it, because I never slept to regain spells.. I got in BG city in 4 days or something

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Vampire dogs can only be killed with magic or magical weapons... you might not have much of that so they are hard to kill (hence the 2000 XP for every kill! or something like that

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lose zxar and montaron, they're just weak!! all depends on your alignment though.. if you're evil..

**DarkCloud** · December 29, 2002, 13:34

Btw watch out for sirens, they use charm all the time, which makes them extremely dangerous,

I have a paladin- 4 protections from evil

So- what's a magical item? A sword +1?

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Anyways, I find wandering around the map tedious- therefore, I didn't bother to clear it; however, I think I might level up to level 4 before I go into the Cloakwood mines as I can 'just barely' hold my own versus the wyvrens.

Xzar now has some good spells

but next time I play, I think I'll not have any magic users and instead have a Cleric/Druid/Ranger/Paladin/Thief/Fighter ... Do you think that a party like that might work?

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lose zxar and montaron, they're just weak!! all depends on your alignment though.. if you're evil..

No, I'm chaotic good. And Montaroon never dies...
And I lost out on Xan already... and Edwin is evil... and I can't split Xar and Montaroon up... unless Monty or Xar dies...

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