I hate sim city

[Buck Birdseed]

I hate Sim games too, but not for the reasons listed here. See, I'm a primitive, instant-gratification type player, and all thesim games have that in common that the first couple of ours are dreary and boring. Once you've experimented a bit it's just one long, long slog... ...Then supposedly it gets fun and exciting. I've never reached this stage. I want fun all the time, no periods of boredom ever!

[Maquiladora]

Doesnt anyone play the scenarios for Sim City? The SC2K ones especially, particularly the Flint 1974 one

The Sims is for poofs who like choosing table lamps and washing machines, anyone who puts them self in that game is a sad ****er.

[DrSpike]

A lot of people seem to be drawing a distinction between sim city and the sims. I have to say I do not see the difference.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by Maquiladora
Doesnt anyone play the scenarios for Sim City? The SC2K ones especially, particularly the Flint 1974 one

Nope, I hate scenarios... that kills the "Do-whatever-you-want" part of the game

[Adagio]

Originally posted by DrSpike
A lot of people seem to be drawing a distinction between sim city and the sims. I have to say I do not see the difference.

Comparing SimCity to The Sims, is like comparing water and oil... Both water and oil is liquid, but that's about it, what they have in common...

[Maquiladora]

Originally posted by ADG


Nope, I hate scenarios... that kills the "Do-whatever-you-want" part of the game

Once youve made that "biggest city ever", "most pleasant city ever" and "my city", its mostly downhill on variation IMO, scenarios are a welcome break.

[DrSpike]

ADG:

Tell me why. They are both open ended; you have stated you like to do what you want........if anything The Sims should be preferable to you on that account.

[Adagio]

I didn't say, I didn't like The Sims (I do like it, I just don't play it often), I just said The Sims and SimCity are two different games, with very little in common (e.g. openendness)...

[DrSpike]

You don't think both The Sims and Sim City are open-ended? Of course they are.........don't see your reasoning here.

*edit* Or is openendedness an example of one of the few things they have in common? In this case I would say that all here have agreed that the openendedness is the most important feature of both (whether you love or hate openendness is pretty much what decides whether you like these games or not), and hence having that in common makes them similar games.

[Adagio]

Yes, I said that openendness are one of the few things they have in common (Which is the reason why I like both games)

[DrSpike]

But since that is the most notable feature of both games you have to class them as similar. This is why I cannot understand people drawing a line between The Sims and Sim City.

To move the debate on though; I would say generally it is non-serious gamers who like the sim games. Most serious gamers prefer more demanding games with goals, but sim games appeal to more occasional gamers. The widespread success of the sims is indicative of this.

Discuss.

[Adagio]

Originally posted by DrSpike
To move the debate on though; I would say generally it is non-serious gamers who like the sim games. Most serious gamers prefer more demanding games with goals, but sim games appeal to more occasional gamers. The widespread success of the sims is indicative of this.

Discuss.

I guess you might be right here, since I'm defently af non-serious gamer (Just ask all my "serious-gamer" friends )... AFAIK none of my friends likes openended games much, and none of them af non-serious gamers... (Hmmm... that's why I feel like, it's me against the rest of the world )

[Imran Siddiqui]

A lot of people seem to be drawing a distinction between sim city and the sims. I have to say I do not see the difference.

Yeah, it's like people that draw a distinction between Civ and Starcraft. I don't see the difference . They are both strategy games, right?

[DrSpike]

Ah but I have stated why I think the games we are discussing should be classed as very similar in gameplay style. Your argument is mere unsubstantiated sophistry.

[Thrawn05]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I don't see the difference . They are both strategy games, right?

That's how I feel when I compare Civ with Chess.... a very very very advanced form of Chess.