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  • Updated for the last time here's the final results
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    • Originally posted by ADG
      Updated for the last time here's the final results
      Thanks ADG, I am really surprised by the fifth place of Civ3 with 120 points only, I thought it would end first far away from the others.
      "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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      • What's even funnier is that CTP2 did better than civ3.

        Who'd thunk that!!!
        Yes, let's be optimistic until we have reason to be otherwise...No, let's be pessimistic until we are forced to do otherwise...Maybe, let's be balanced until we are convinced to do otherwise. -- DrSpike, Skanky Burns, Shogun Gunner
        ...aisdhieort...dticcok...

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        • Originally posted by hexagonian
          What's even funnier is that CTP2 did better than civ3.

          Who'd thunk that!!!
          Not me!



          It would be interesting to detail the votes, it seems that many gamers playing Civ2 have not necessarily upgraded to Civ3 or have not found the game suited to their taste as the gameplay is very different. As far as I can remember many Civ3 players have not ranked Civ3 as their favorite game where the CtP2 and SMAC players have almost always ranked these games first, was it enough to make the difference or has the Civ3 community ignored this vote?

          Whatsoever CtP2 is second and so is the CtP serie in the other voting thread...
          "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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          • Originally posted by hexagonian
            What's even funnier is that CTP2 did better than civ3.
            That's not funny, that's a disaster

            ctp1/2 are both filled with more bugs than Civ3 (Well, some people call them features )...

            I didn't vote Civ3 as being the best game, since there's better games around, but Civ3 is still better than any previously Civ/ctp game...
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            • Originally posted by ADG
              I didn't vote Civ3 as being the best game, since there's better games around, but Civ3 is still better than any previously Civ/ctp game...
              It's a matter of opinion and taste, it can't be a statement...
              "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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              • Originally posted by ADG
                ctp1/2 are both filled with more bugs than Civ3 (Well, some people call them features )...
                Yeah I know there are some people who consider it as a feature to move 200 units each turn just to improve the terrain of their empire.

                -Martin
                Civ2 military advisor: "No complaints, Sir!"

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                • Well... that's better than to click 200+ times, to figure out that you can't build what you want to build, when you want to build...

                  And it's more realistic to have workers, instead of spending 300000000+ pw in one turn (and thereby change a country from a very far behind in everything, to the most advanced country in the world (advanced in: using every square of land, not advanced in: having all advances), in one turn

                  Hmmm... wait, this thread shouldn't be turned into "a fight about that Civ3 beats the hell out of ctp2 any time" thread...
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                  • Originally posted by Tamerlin

                    It would be interesting to detail the votes...
                    Well, I had provided ADG with a spreadsheet with each player's votes in a separate column...
                    It all depends whether he wants and can upload the whole width in his page

                    ADG, the list would need sorting, see Planescape.
                    Ask me for hints in Excel usage, in case you'd not be comfortable with it. Also the position is obtained with a formula, so you should simply copy it for the new lines, and not insert the position manually....
                    I don't exactly know what I mean by that, but I mean it (Holden Caulfield)

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                    • Originally posted by ADG
                      Well... that's better than to click 200+ times, to figure out that you can't build what you want to build, when you want to build...
                      I have no idea what you are talking about. Really!!!
                      "Kill a man and you are a murder.
                      Kill thousands and you are a conquer.
                      Kill all and you are a God!"
                      -Jean Rostand

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                      • Originally posted by Pedrunn
                        I have no idea what you are talking about. Really!!!
                        Ok, it didn't come out right. But what makes more sense is, that I hate that system because I keep forgetting about it (and always wonder were the workers are), and when I finally wants to use it, I don't have enough PeeWee to buy what I want to buy, or I have so much money that I can upgrade the whole country... And another reason is, I simply just don't think that "feature" fits into a Civ type game. The idea just doesn't make any sense at all in such type of game...

                        And yeah, I prefer to have lots of units to walk around with
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                        • Originally posted by ADG
                          And yeah, I prefer to have lots of units to walk around with
                          Just a matter of taste...
                          "Democracy is the worst form of government there is, except for all the others that have been tried." Sir Winston Churchill

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                          • Originally posted by MariOne
                            Well, I had provided ADG with a spreadsheet with each player's votes in a separate column...
                            It all depends whether he wants and can upload the whole width in his page

                            ADG, the list would need sorting, see Planescape.
                            Ask me for hints in Excel usage, in case you'd not be comfortable with it. Also the position is obtained with a formula, so you should simply copy it for the new lines, and not insert the position manually....
                            I did what you say. Well... I didn't copy the lines, I just drag'ed the needed lines down, but sometimes it seems to forget something. Like in Planescape, the position was calculated from the line below Planescape, thereby leaving Planescape to have the same position as the one below... But I think I have fixed all of those now... (Don't know if I can upload it tonight though... my upload speed is on avg 1 kb/s, and has caused timeouts when uploading I wonder if I even can post this msg... this is second try... there's no problem with downloading)

                            I sorted the list from:
                            Position
                            Avg
                            Game-name

                            Is there other things there should be on the list?


                            I'm trying to upload the list for the last time today, if it doesn't work, you'll have to wait until tomorow...
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                            • Originally posted by ADG
                              And yeah, I prefer to have lots of units to walk around with
                              Yeah a matter of taste. My taste is it not to waste a lot of time to run around with 200 settlers/engineers just to improve my terrain. In Civ2 I needed for this task one hour per turn in the worst case, I think this also included the trade tasks, but not the wait until I was able to move my units again.

                              -Martin
                              Civ2 military advisor: "No complaints, Sir!"

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                              • Originally posted by ADG


                                Ok, it didn't come out right. But what makes more sense is, that I hate that system because I keep forgetting about it (and always wonder were the workers are), and when I finally wants to use it, I don't have enough PeeWee to buy what I want to buy, or I have so much money that I can upgrade the whole country


                                If that is any consolation for you i done like the concept either although it is a big improvement over the settler system. Still when everytime i play the game i keep saying to me: "Why dont they just used gold to buy TI other than create a totally new concept?"

                                Matter of taste End of Discussion (I hope!)
                                "Kill a man and you are a murder.
                                Kill thousands and you are a conquer.
                                Kill all and you are a God!"
                                -Jean Rostand

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