What's the BEST of all CIVS?

[Caesar the Great]

CIV 2

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[Glak]

I've played the following: civ1, civ2, SMAC, colonization. The clear winner is civ1. Civ2 was a step down in gameplay. SMAC is civ2 gameplaywise (maybe a tad better) but with better features. Still features don't make the game, the gameplay does so civ1 crushes the others.

[Hero Caesar]

Hmmm. Civ 2 is probably my favourite, but in a lot of ways it was Civ 1 again with prettier graphics, new units, new wonders and a few other fixes. Colonization was a great game, though it lacked the long term enjoyment of Civ for me. CTP - I have yet to even finish a game with it, the interface is VERY annoying plus heaps of other problems other people have already stated. Haven't played SMAC yet.

So after all that rambling I guess Civ 2 is the winner.

[Sikander]

Well, here are my rankings of the games that I have played so far:

Master of Magic: An immense amount of game play here, tactical combat, many unit types (with several experience levels), heroes and weapons for them to weild (and a weapon workshop where you could build custom weapons for them). Millions of spells, Many paths to victory.

Civ 1: An instant classic. So popular that even it's problems were carried over to Civ 2 and other descendants.

MOO 2: Good space game, where you could design and build your own ships and fight it out on a tactical battle map. Better simulation (and simpler too) of economic behavior than the tired city-state model of Civ etc.

Colonization: A very good early (partial)departure from the Civ economic model, where people in town actually do something other than gather rescources. Personnel specialization, training, immigration, all things that might have made Civ 2 something other than too little too late. Endgame was anticlimactic, and not challenging at all, and poor (meaning no) automation made the micromanagement extremely tedious.

Smacx: Nothing revolutionary, but some nice concepts borrowed (unit workshop) and some new (to me anyway) concepts somewhat poorly executed (social engineering). Still playing it. Horrific modification troubles will probably limit the life of this product unless they are fixed by some sort of scenario editor.

Civ 2: Nothing about this game was new, and by the time it came out, everything about this game was overdue. Should be called Civ 1.1! The best thing about (MGE) is the scenario editor, which though somewhat limited (you really can't change the game enough) still manages to breath some life into this venerable engine.
[This message has been edited by Sikander (edited February 10, 2000).]

[Qilue]

In no particular order,

SMAC/x
Civ2
Colonization
Birth of the Federation
Lords of the Realm II
Railroad Tycoon 1&2
Caesar 2 (although, this isn't TBS)

One game I liked, although it's definately an aquired taste.

Conquest of the New World

[JohnT]

In no particular order, except for Civ1...

Civ1 - Easily the most played game in my life. Never before nor since has a game kept me glued to a computer 'til 4:30 in the morning... night after night after night. "My Wife Hates Civ" could be my login too!

Colonization - My strategy: get the founding fathers who 1. makes every sacked indian village give gold, and 2. gives free transport of said gold across the Atlantic. Once I get those two gentlemen, it's sayanora for the Indians. A great game, especially for us Yanks.

Moo1: Civ1 in space. I always played the Psilons (or whoever the SMAC University equivalent was for this game). Moo2 was beset with micromanagement problems, even though I loved its race creation process.

X-Com: It had a research tree, it had "cities," so it was kind of like Civ, but with the addition of personal control of your army. Proof that the Brits can make great games.

Railroad Tycoon 2: Probably my most played game of 1998, from what I've heard it was a worthy successor to Sid's original (which I never played, having spent my money that year on "A-Train" ).

And last, but not least, Heroes of Might and Magic 2/3. Nothing like Civ, it doesn't even have the Meier name to even belong in this thread, but still HOMM is a brilliant series of TBS games that captures the "just one more turn" momentum as perfectly as Civ - and that's no small feat!

[Cthol]

Civilization 2

[master k]

well, i can't remeber which game was more addictiv:
colonization or civ2.
colonization had poor graphics, but an exciting atmosphere.
civ2 had an extreme good "longtime motivation", so in a summary i would say: both.

master k

[Father Beast]

Civilization II!
This game has caused me to lose incredible amounts of time, ignoring the roaring of my neglected stomach, the cries for attention from my wife and kids, the call of sleep.
I still play Civ1 occaisionally, even though the graphics aren't as good, since I can pull things there that were improved out of Civ2. (anyone remember being the mongol hordes?)

Master Of Orion runs second for the "just one more turn" addiction category. The nice thing about MOO1 (I don't have moo2) over civ was that it actually felt like a unified empire rather than a set of allied planets.

[Seeker]

1.Civ2
2. Civ 2 expansions (I consider ToT an expansion)
3. MOO2
4. Imperialism

5. An obscure, ancient SEGA game called "Genghis Khan 2: Clan of the Gray Wolf" by KOEI

[Seeker]

1.Civ2
2. Civ 2 expansions (I consider ToT an expansion)
3. Warlords 2 Deluxe
4. MOO2
5. Imperialism

6. An obscure, ancient SEGA game called "Genghis Khan 2: Clan of the Gray Wolf" by KOEI

[Seeker]

1.Civ2
2. Civ 2 expansions (I consider ToT an expansion)
3. Warlords 2 Deluxe
4. MOO2
5. Imperialism

6. An obscure, ancient SEGA game called "Genghis Khan 2: Clan of the Gray Wolf" by KOEI

[TNapoleon]

How about a Blast from the Past?

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[The Mad Monk]

Frogman posted:

quote: I was hoping to read the posts and decide whether to buy CTP or SMAC. My decision... Keep playing Civ 2 for my turn based addiction. For real time what is the best...Warcraft, Starcraft or Age of Empires?

Total Annihilation.

[The Mad Monk]

I should add (to be OT):
I never thought I would break my obsession with MOO2...until I bought Civ II and TOT.