*nudges out Spiffor* I need a great Space STRATEGY game!

[Spaced Cowboy]

Oh yeah, I have that one too.

For some reason the warp links in these games makes them....uh what is the word I'm looking for.....oh, yeah, suck!

[Boris Godunov]

In what way? Both Ascendancy and SEIV Gold use warp links, and I can get accustomed to them if the other game factors are solid enough.

[Urban Ranger]

I have never played Ascendancy, but heard that it was bad.

[Grumbold]

Pax Imperia (PC) was okay but nothing special.

Ascendancy was fun but the AI was a walkover.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
In what way? Both Ascendancy and SEIV Gold use warp links, and I can get accustomed to them if the other game factors are solid enough.

Yeah, but choke points in space do not make much sense.

I think that both of those games bog down in the end because of the WL. I've started my own space tactical game at one point, but never finished. Not enough time in the day for that. Maybe if I win the lottery.

[Jamski]

Choke points in space make sense from a game theory point of view. Otherwise there is no "territory" to fight over.

-Jam

[Guynemer]

Star Control 2.

Action/adventure/strategy/economics. With ha has.

Pure gaming goodness.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Jamski
Choke points in space make sense from a game theory point of view. Otherwise there is no "territory" to fight over.

-Jam

I present to you, Dune.

Even simple population pressure will cause interstellar empires to expand outward.

[VetLegion]

Azazel, did you get FA to run under WinXP? I tried, it starts but crashes very soon in the game.

[Jamski]

Even simple population pressure will cause interstellar empires to expand outward.

Its a satire on Islam, not population pressure

No, I mean without choke points there is nothing to define the terrain. Which you need for a game, especially a stratagy game.

-Jam

[Spaced Cowboy]

I still disagree, some of the better ones that I've played (MoO, the first IG) did not have this and I liked them more.

[Jamski]

This is why I think MoM is a better game than MoO. MoO is about defending points in space.

-Jam

[Urban Ranger]

No way, MoM sucks. The entire game is not well thought out, some of the abilities are way broken, and the whole thing just seem haphazard.

[Jamski]

I beg to differ.

It may have a few small flaws, but it is surely one of the great classic games. MoM sucks is just a tiny bit far from the truth

Anyway - the use of "warp lanes" or whatever in 4x games to create chokepoints has one very important side effect - it simplifies AI path-finding.

-Jam

[Urban Ranger]

What? You don't need path finding in space 4x games. It's always a straight line between two systems.

In fact, warp links will make it more difficult.