Kotor

[Imran Siddiqui]

As for "romance", I managed to get Bastila to take me back to the crew quarters on the Ebon Hawk, but only got a kiss out of her.

Same here... but the romance helped at the 'end', in terms of dialogue choices at the Star Forge.

[Jagdtiger]

For me, the greatest moment in gaming history is back on dantooine, when the two families are facing each other. If you play the dark side the dialog can go something like this:

You: Obviously the only way we can end this is through bloodshed.
Canderous: FINALLY someone says what we've all been thinking!
Family dude 1: What are we doing? We should talk about this.
Family dude 2: I guess...we can resolve this in a peaceful manner.
You: [Lie]You know, he really DID kidnap and kill your son...
Family dude 2: What! You Bastard!
You: KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL!!!


Man, the dialog options in this game are the best ever...

[Jagdtiger]

Oh yeah, and Jolee:

Jolee: I did it ALL for the Wookies.
You: The Wookies?
Jolee: The Wookies.

[BustaMike]

I can't believe you people like playing with Bastilla and Carth. Bastilla is a weak minded tramp, and Carth is a giant ***** with man-feelings. Any real hero, light or dark, would take either Canderous, Jolee, or the slaughterbot.

"Shall I kill this meatbag for you master?"

Some gameplay things I noticed (SPOILERS may be included) -

The dual wielding feat does not affect double sabers. Any display numbers that say it does are lying to you. There is no penalty for double blades. The dual wield feat only affects 2 sabers. This is ridiculous considering the double blade was already the strongest melee weapon.

The scout/consular combo is the stongest possible. Scouts actually get more feats than soldiers due to the free implants and consulars get more force powers (4 for 3 levels). IMO the absolute strongest guy you can make has very high will and charisma, uses dual sabers with blaster deflection crystals, max blaster deflection feat, and uses force wave and stasis exclusively (and you don't really even need stasis). This guy is basically invincible and never even needs to swing his sword.

Duping is possible (at least on the Xbox). Do it on Manaan with the airlock. You'll notice that if you go out the airlock and come back in you're guys will be equipped with whatever you had on you while you were in the submarine, meaning you can unequip stuff, go out, go in, and now it's equipped and in you inventory. This is great for getting my slaughterbot dual Cassius Fett pistols.

Get unlimited darkside points in 2 places. Either yell at the kid on the ship over and over as she runs away or keep demanding more than 1000 from the guy at the north mansion on Dantooine.

Anyway, I liked the game a lot, but I kinda beat the crap out of it so I'm done until KOTOR 2.

[Imran Siddiqui]

I can't believe you people like playing with Bastilla and Carth. Bastilla is a weak minded tramp, and Carth is a giant ***** with man-feelings. Any real hero, light or dark, would take either Canderous, Jolee, or the slaughterbot.

BAH!! Bastilla ROCKS! She's the best Jedi (aside from yourself).

[BustaMike]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

I can't believe you people like playing with Bastilla and Carth. Bastilla is a weak minded tramp, and Carth is a giant ***** with man-feelings. Any real hero, light or dark, would take either Canderous, Jolee, or the slaughterbot.

BAH!! Bastilla ROCKS! She's the best Jedi (aside from yourself).

You're out of your mind. Not only is she the stupidest character, but from a pure gameplay standpoint, she is by far the weakest of the 3 sidekicks. The cat girl can cloak and is an excellent melee fighter especially with the force leap that guardians get, and Jolee gets more force powers as a consular and more effective force powers due to his high wisdom and charisma. Bastilla is a jedi sentinal. Sentinals are worthless.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You're out of your mind. Not only is she the stupidest character, but from a pure gameplay standpoint, she is by far the weakest of the 3 sidekicks. The cat girl can cloak and is an excellent melee fighter especially with the force leap that guardians get, and Jolee gets more force powers as a consular and more effective force powers due to his high wisdom and charisma. Bastilla is a jedi sentinal. Sentinals are worthless.

Sentinals are the best class... best of both worlds. Can fight and cast a bunch of force powers. My first party had two Sentinals (me and Bastilla every time) and it was kick ass! Much better than when I was a Consular or Guardian.

And Bastilla is the most fun to have as a party member, with good conversations and a romance angle. Fun to see how far you can pull her from the Jedi Code... even if you are good... and it comes in handy later.

[Jagdtiger]

SPOILERS


Well Bastila may not be the best of the three, but after you kill Jolee and Juhani you kinda have no choice . Does anybody know of a way to kill Zaalbar and/or Carth? That way I could weed out all the lamers and just have bad-asses on my team.

[asleepathewheel]

how do you kill jolee? I know how to kill juhani (duh, obviously) and the useless Mission. CAn you get rid of the droids and canderous?

[BustaMike]

Sentinals are the best class... best of both worlds. Can fight and cast a bunch of force powers. My first party had two Sentinals (me and Bastilla every time) and it was kick ass! Much better than when I was a Consular or Guardian.

You are just plain wrong. You must have just built your guy wrong. And even if you didn't, common sense should tell you it's better to have 2 guys specialized in different things than 2 balanced characters with no real strengths. It's basic strategy for any game to maximize strengths instead of minimizing weaknesses.

[Imran Siddiqui]

You are just plain wrong. You must have just built your guy wrong. And even if you didn't, common sense should tell you it's better to have 2 guys specialized in different things than 2 balanced characters with no real strengths. It's basic strategy for any game to maximize strengths instead of minimizing weaknesses.

No it isn't! Just because you play that way doesn't mean everyone has to . Playing to minimize weakness is just as good a strategy as maximizing strength. All I need are people who have decent fighting skills with enough force powers to get me a Force Wave pretty quick.

My first game with two Sentinels was much easier than my second game with a Guardian and a Sentinel. So I speak from experience of playing.

[BustaMike]

Just because you play that way doesn't mean everyone has to

You are absolutely right. Feel free to play badly if you choose . In a duel, my KOTOR characters would wipe the floor with your guys though .

[Jagdtiger]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel
how do you kill jolee? I know how to kill juhani (duh, obviously) and the useless Mission. CAn you get rid of the droids and canderous?

In the final world, after you fight bastila you have the option of joining her against malak and rule the galaxy. Jolee doesn't highly of this and you have to fight him. He actually kicked my ass twice! Because he neutralized all my force powers and I forgot to take all the awesome gear from him. Just as well, at least he got a fair fight

[Dis]

The thing to note about sentinals and consulars is consulars get a bonus of 4 when comparing DC checks against enemies. This may come in handy against Malak. Especially as a dark sider because you can't find + wisdome or +charisma items for the dark side.

And my guardian I just finished the game the first time with was bad ass. I rarely needed force powers. Force immunity was the only one I really used. My dual lightsabers slashed their way through every enemy with ease- including Malak.

[Stuie]

I just finished my second time through, this time playing a dark sider. What a blast! The ending was much more enjoyable, especially getting to kill some particularly annoying characters. And the Zaalbar bit on the forge planet...

As for Malak, I was able to beat him at his own game using a Dark Side character - I sucked the life out of the captive Jedi before he needed to, so it was over pretty quick.

Most enjoyable.