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    I lot of us like playing magic

    wouldn't it be cool if we could play together?

    all we would need is a spreadsheet program and 3 people (more would be cool)

    one person would be the GM and would keep track of the decks and randomness

    the other two would play

    in order to simulate rarity there could be some sort of random card drawing mechanism

    (I have given quite a bit of though to all of these things and would be interested in trying it)

    who else is interested? if others are (or even if no one posts before I get bored again) I will post my ideas about how to do things)

    Jon Miller
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  • #2
    here is what I was thinking

    everybody who was playing would get the same chance at the cards we were playing with (obviously not all), than people would make decks with them and see who was the best at apolyton

    each card would have a rarity number which a random number (0-99) would be compared to, you would get that card if you were higher than it (this would be done 4 times)

    than people could make decks and play as outlined above (I thought about it while walking home, it would work (As long as trustworthy GMs were found))

    my ideas for rarity would be to divide the cards into 4 erras (As well as the rarities)
    c u r
    a 16 32 64
    b 32 48 72
    c 48 64 80
    d 64 80 96

    people could of course trade and do what they wanted with the cards they were playing with

    than decks and tourneyments could be made

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    • #3
      this idea mostly comes from me wondering how I would fare against some of you

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      • #4
        If you can decide on a format, I'd love to play.
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        • #5
          I was thinking of something like

          no more than 4 copies of any card in a deck (except lands)
          standard rules
          60 or more cards in a deck
          no ante cards

          and let a rarity system keep people from putting too many broke cards in a deck

          Jon Miller
          Last edited by Jon Miller; May 31, 2003, 22:49.
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          • #6
            Type 1 rules (e.g., no ante cards, no more than 1 copy of certain broken cards like Fork or Sol Ring, all other bets are off)? Or Type 2 (only cards from recent expansions and the standard edition)?

            I could make a shuffling/drawing program for the GM's...
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            • #7
              type 1 would be better

              and thanks (I know you are more skilled with that sort of thing than I, I was just thinking of using Excel)

              Jon Miller
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              • #8
                Are we limited to cards we own in making decks for the game?
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                • #9
                  JM: I was just thinking about the mechanics of gameplay -- the GM really ought to be in charge of drawing cards for the players (if players draw cards for themselves then the temptation would be too great to conveniently draw a Dark Ritual or Black Lotus or whatever right when they really need it), which means that he'll need some sort of program to handle the process. Ideally it would also be able to track the cards in each player's hand, for purposes of deciding which cards are randomly discarded (e.g. if a player is struck by a Hypnotic Spectre) or just to keep people from cheating ("Honest, I really did have a counterspell in my hand!"). The players would just need a spreadsheet or text file or whatever to track their decks as need be.

                  I've got finals in ten days, but I can take care of programming the necessaries after that. I imagine it'll take a while for people to arrange their decks etc. anyway.

                  DD: I certainly hope not, seeing as how I don't own any.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by loinburger
                    (if players draw cards for themselves then the temptation would be too great to conveniently draw a Dark Ritual or Black Lotus or whatever right when they really need it),
                    Black Lotus and other 0 cost mana generators really should be banned from our game.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DinoDoc
                      Are we limited to cards we own in making decks for the game?
                      that would be hard to put down

                      I was thinking of some sort of rarity thing where everyone would have the same chance to have access to a card (but might not) so that everyone wouldnt' neccesarily be making uber decks

                      like if serra angel is a recent rare, there would be a 35% chance of getting one (x4 for 4 tries) so you would likely have 1 or 2 (if you wanted more, you would trade with someone else to get more (and they would get some card of yours))

                      this would make rarity still matter and would take care of thre all being uber decks

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                      • #12
                        We could play Type 1.5 rules, where the cards on the Type 1 Restricted list are banned. I'd suggest that, actually -- how many Yawgmoth's Bargains do you really need to crush somebody, particularly if you've also packed your deck with various Tutors?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DinoDoc
                          Black Lotus and other 0 cost mana generators really should be banned from our game.
                          by my idea of using rarity, none (or maybe 1) would be in play ever

                          Jon Miller
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by loinburger
                            JM: I was just thinking about the mechanics of gameplay -- the GM really ought to be in charge of drawing cards for the players (if players draw cards for themselves then the temptation would be too great to conveniently draw a Dark Ritual or Black Lotus or whatever right when they really need it), which means that he'll need some sort of program to handle the process. Ideally it would also be able to track the cards in each player's hand, for purposes of deciding which cards are randomly discarded (e.g. if a player is struck by a Hypnotic Spectre) or just to keep people from cheating ("Honest, I really did have a counterspell in my hand!"). The players would just need a spreadsheet or text file or whatever to track their decks as need be.

                            I've got finals in ten days, but I can take care of programming the necessaries after that. I imagine it'll take a while for people to arrange their decks etc. anyway.

                            DD: I certainly hope not, seeing as how I don't own any.
                            I think you could take care of everything with spreadsheets (and a radom number generator and a sort), but you are right a program would be better

                            Jon Miller
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by loinburger
                              We could play Type 1.5 rules, where the cards on the Type 1 Restricted list are banned. I'd suggest that, actually -- how many Yawgmoth's Bargains do you really need to crush somebody, particularly if you've also packed your deck with various Tutors?
                              using my rarity idea, many of those cards would be rare, so hopefully there would not be many (among those who were playing) and it would not be broken (but a rare card here or two that might be in play and make things exciting)

                              Jon Miller
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