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  • Did the British Imperialism improve the world?

    Niall Ferguson recently wrote a book called Empire: The Rise and Demise of the British World Order and the Lessons for Global Power in which he says that the British Empire economically improved the areas of the world that it controlled (and even those that it didn't). What do you think did the British Empire usher the rest of the world into the modern era as Niall claims or did the fact that we did not allow these regions to develop naturally set back progress.

    Personally I think that the British Empire DID improve certain areas of the world (India, America, Australia are great examples...and hurt other areas (middle east, Africa). So what do you think?
    75
    yes
    50.67%
    38
    no
    36.00%
    27
    undecided
    13.33%
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    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard

  • #2
    Yes.
    http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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    • #3
      Sure. I wish to gawd you people could/would do something about Canada, but other than that, sure.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
      "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #4
        No
        To us, it is the BEAST.

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        • #5
          I think it improved the world economically at an enormous social and human cost.
          "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
          "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
          "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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          • #6
            british imperialism was easily the best imperialism. and if u look around in general ex british colonies have it pretty good compared to their neighbors.

            so by just menial observation I'd go w/ yes.

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            • #7
              Asia: Damaged
              Africa: Damaged
              Middle-East: Damaged
              Europe: Didn't even try
              Americas: Can't be blamed for grabbing almost empty land, I suppose.
              Oceania: Ditto.

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              • #8
                The worst modern day result or effect of British Imperialism could be a Nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan. Way to go
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #9
                  It depends of your priorities. If you're first interested about economic growth and the instillation of the western's idea of progress, the British imperialism sure had a positive impact in these regards pretty much everywhere it went.

                  If you don't consider economic growth and scientific knowledge to be self-obvious aims for the human beings, and if you accept the validity of non-technologically bent societies, the answer is a firm no.

                  The European imperialism, with the British one being the most important, spread European values throughout a world that was still medieval (if not tribal), and that would have remained so much longer without that imperialism.
                  In order to success, this imperialism had in the best case to belittle these cultures, and in the worst case to genocide them.

                  Hence, from my perspective, the answer is no.
                  "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                  "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                  "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                  • #10
                    Why am I so NOT surprised at some of the responses?
                    Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                    "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                    He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                    • #11
                      Why am I so NOT surprised at some of the responses?
                      Two words: Loaded question.
                      "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                      "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                      "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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                      • #12
                        Sloww:
                        Because you rightwingers are arrogant bastards overlooking the crimes against humanity because of some economic profit, whereas leftwingers are compassionate people who first feel for their fellow human ?

                        "I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
                        "I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
                        "I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- Dis

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                        • #13
                          only loaded cuz u took offense to it

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                          • #14
                            While I am the Brits biggest fan, colonialism in most cases left the places far more chaotic than they were originally, and, in many cases completely devastated areas.

                            Remember, that colonialism in most cases, the wealth travelled outside of the colony, and back to the motherland. That's a heavy resource drain.

                            Notice the following modern troublespots, all former colonies:

                            1) Israel/Palestine
                            2) India/Pakistan
                            3) Iran/Iraq

                            Coincidence that all of these places are at odds with one another?

                            The establishment of the British economic and educational systems bring the potential for greatness to many parts of the world, but unfortunatley, the fragmented state that many of these places have been left in, far outweighs any system. Africa, for example, is a disaster from colonialism.

                            Spiffor is right. Judging a country's progress by things like the existence of a stock market, freeways, and a higher education system is just plain wrong.

                            What's the name of that movie, I think it's, "The Gods Must be Crazy" ?

                            It's where the primitive african tribe is really happy, but then they find a simple coke bottle from the modern neighbors, and it ends up making all of them miserable.
                            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                            • #15
                              only loaded cuz u took offense to it
                              Who's offended?
                              "Beauty is not in the face...Beauty is a light in the heart." - Kahlil Gibran
                              "The greatest happiness of life is the conviction that we are loved; loved for ourselves, or rather, loved in spite of ourselves" - Victor Hugo
                              "It is noble to be good; it is still nobler to teach others to be good -- and less trouble." - Mark Twain

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