The G.W.Bush War Record

[MarkG]

meanwhile, here's something to get the average american taxpayer really anxious

http://www.costofwar.com/

[DarthVeda]

And we can see just what an awesome president Clinton was with his personal affairs.

[Boris Godunov]

Actually, Bush's dodging of the war is more two-faced than Clinton's, as Clinton was at least consistent with his professed beliefs (he openly opposed the war on moral grounds). Bush was a war supporter and even to this day believes the cause was just (but not necessarily the manner), yet he weaseled out of it, too. So he goes into the Limbaugh/Buchanan/Quayle/Gramm/etc. camp of chickenhawks.

[JohnT]

Americans don't get anxious over Social Security, Mark, you think we're going to freak out over a measly $40 billion?

[DarthVeda]

Originally posted by MarkG
meanwhile, here's something to get the average american taxpayer really anxious
http://www.costofwar.com/

That should be re-labeled to the "Price of Freedom"

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Ming
Nahhhh.... he only claimed that he didn't inhale

i'm not sure if that's worse

[Ming]

Worse... who knows... but how stupid does he think people are to believe that line

[Sava]

Originally posted by DarthVeda


That should be re-labeled to the "Price of Freedom"

The "Price of a corrupt politician's agenda".

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Ming
Worse... who knows... but how stupid does he think people are to believe that line

less stupid than believing that your army records are hard to be found and lie about going to war

[Sava]

Originally posted by MarkG
less stupid than believing that your army records are hard to be found and lie about going to war

or maybe a confidence that you know your propaganda machine will make sure that issue isn't talked about

[Stefu]

"Hey, look at what Bush did, right here..."

CLINTON! CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON! CLINTON, I TELL YOU! Why? CLINTON! That's why!

Of course, we can't forget the other side of the coin, in some other thread:

"Hey, look at what Clinton did, right here..."

BUSH! BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH! And I know what you're going to say next, and my answer is BUSH!

Jesus already, people, are those knees jerking hard enough yet? MIGHT IT ACTUALLY BE POSSIBLE THAT THEY'RE BOTH POLITICIANS?

[Master Zen]

I'm not so sure the US propaganda machine will be that more effective after this little adventure. Good. The world is sick of hypocricy.

[Sava]

Stefu... I agree. And that's my point. If people are going to bash Clinton for something, they should be consistent about it. IMO Clinton is as big a jag-bag as Bush. But Clinton bothered me less because during his presidency, the economy was good and we weren't pissing off a billion Muslims.

[JohnT]

Originally posted by Stefu
"Hey, look at what Bush did, right here..."

CLINTON! CLINTON CLINTON CLINTON! CLINTON, I TELL YOU! Why? CLINTON! That's why!

Of course, we can't forget the other side of the coin, in some other thread:

"Hey, look at what Clinton did, right here..."

BUSH! BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH! And I know what you're going to say next, and my answer is BUSH!

Jesus already, people, are those knees jerking hard enough yet? MIGHT IT ACTUALLY BE POSSIBLE THAT THEY'RE BOTH POLITICIANS?

My knee jerks less in my advancing years, but it can still kick.

And Sava, I didn't care about Clinton's service record either when it was topical, so why should I care about Bush's?

[Sava]

Originally posted by JohnT


My knee jerks less in my advancing years, but it can still kick.

And Sava, I didn't care about Clinton's service record either when it was topical, so why should I care about Bush's?

Bush's shouldn't be relevant. That's my point. As Boris pointed out, Clinton was consistent in his opinion of war. Bush OTOH is not. I'm attacking his hypocritical Hawkish stance rather than his war record. In fact, all things being equal, I'd applaud Bush for finding a way out of that unjust fool's errand known as Vietnam.