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  • I have many gripes with America, but in the end, I love it.

    If my life could help to preserve this great nation, I would gladly give it . i'm not going to join the armed forces, but I would not dodge a draft should one arise.
    "I've lived too long with pain. I won't know who I am without it. We have to leave this place, I am almost happy here."
    - Ender, from Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card

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    • Slowwmind er hand, who died and made you Robespierre?
      "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
      —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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      • Originally posted by SlowwHand
        Doubtful.
        Attempts to manupulate me by the best have failed.
        This statement requires the smilies that laughs so hard it throws up.
        Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

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        • Originally posted by chegitz guevara


          This statement requires the smilies that laughs so hard it throws up.
          You're just being manipulated by different people than he is chegitz.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • Oh, and

            USA! USA! USA!
            We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              • Originally posted by Ted Striker
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                I'm feeling a bit like a jerk at the moment......





                As stated before, blind patriotism SUCKS. All it does is cause a "feel-good" atmosphere which seems to rob people of all their common sense and intelligence ("The government would NEVER lie to us!!!" "Saddam! He's the one behind Sep11, not Bin Laden!!!"). This, in turn, lets rulers do whatever they please just so long as they repeat it over and over and over again, because they know that if a stupid person hears something many many times, they will come to support it.

                In fact (yes, this is another dumb-american story), I was shopping in Smiths a few weeks before the war, and this guy was all pumped up about a Bush speech. I asked him why, when he said "Well, he presented pretty convincing evidence! I'm DEFINATELY for the war now.". I was shocked, because I did not think there was any evidence to present.
                Alas, when I returned home, all Bush had said was "Saddam is an evil man........He must get rid of his weapons of mass destruction per secuirty council resolution 1441......Or there will be concequenes.......He has not...........not done this........" blah blah blah. Yes, this is only one story, 1 american out of 250,000,000, but......I'm pretty sure there are many other Americans like this.

                As Hitler (how ironic!) once said: "What luck for rulers that men do not think." That is very true.

                When the majority is under blind patriotism, anyone who comes up to question anything "patriotic" whether it be the peoples intelligence or government policies or whatnot, it suddenly "unpatriotic" and thereby not listened to by the collective. Then they can switch on the TV and get a nice dose of Bush and his so-called "evidence".

                But thats not the only thing that blind patriotism causes. It causes HATE. People will resent you for flying your flag in their face. They may actually go around and burn the flag because it reminds them of you This is dangerous, especially when facing an enemy overseas such as Al Qaeda, because then you've just given Al Qaeda propaganda for one year, maybe two, until you screw up again. And trust me, you will.
                But it also causes hate for those who disagree with you. Ah, for example: FRANCE. The American people bitterly hate France, and most of them probably don't even know where it is on the map. They hate France because of what they see on FOX, and that "everyone else is doing it". They hate France because of what the government says.
                They say "friends would never do such a thing!". Yet their patriotism does not allow them to comprehend that a friend is not a "yes"-man. A friend will try to stop a person from endangering themselves. We hate them, and they are beginning to not really like us at all.......

                Duh people, this is pretty basic stuff.
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                • Lemme find that Soviet Union flag to burn.

                  Oh wait that doesn't exist anymore.
                  We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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                  • Originally posted by Ted Striker
                    Lemme find that Soviet Union flag to burn.

                    Oh wait that doesn't exist anymore.
                    I searched Google and Yahoo, but couldn't find any burning Russian flags or Soviet flags.

                    But as I've stated many times: I don't care as much as you do
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                    • It's easy to burn the stars and stipes. All you need is a flag, a book of matches, and a ****ing idiot.
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                      • Originally posted by Lancer
                        It's easy to burn the stars and stipes. All you need is a flag, a book of matches, and a ****ing idiot.


                        I'm guessing you didn't bother reading my post.
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                        • Yes well you'll forgive me...I've read a few of them.
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                          • I'm a patriot

                            I think

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                            • As stated before, blind patriotism SUCKS. All it does is cause a "feel-good" atmosphere which seems to rob people of all their common sense and intelligence


                              I agree, blind patriotism does suck. Most Americans aren't blindly patriotic, however; they are just smart enough to recognize that they live in the greatest country in the world. It's well-informed patriotism.

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                              • exactly.

                                It seems a lot of people like on that Independent Media website seem to have so much hatred for america. I'll never understand why americans hate america so much. My theory is they have a lot of self-hatred and that carries over. They need some prozac or something.

                                having been abroad you gain a new respect for the nation called the unites states of america. I haven't been to every nation mind you. I have not been to Canada or Australia. They could rival the U.S. in greatness I suppose. But I like to think I live in a pretty good nation. And I will defend the ideals for which our nation was founded upon.

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