If the victim killed an actor in "Scare Tactics", is it homicide, self defence, murde

[Imran Siddiqui]

Manslaughter would be the worst.

And you'd probably need a dumb lawyer to get that... or you have to be an idiot and shoot the guy in the back as he's trying to run away (some places might make that murder).

[Sava]

And you'd probably need a dumb lawyer to get that... or you have to be an idiot and shoot the guy in the back as he's trying to run away (some places might make that murder).

I agree. But if the shooter was poor, non-white, and was strong-armed by police, he/she would probably get the death penalty.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Well as long as the IQ test isn't done when he is obviously trying to run away... .

Once he's out the door, then he's not my problem. Worst case is if you shoot him in the back, then go kick him over and shoot him from the front, too. Good hollowpoints or glasers won't fully penetrate, and without exit wounds, it's pretty hard to tell what came first.

"Gee, in all the confusion I kept firing until he went down. I was just so scared for my little kid's safety. I guess he must have spun around."

[Imran Siddiqui]

I agree. But if the shooter was poor, non-white, and was strong-armed by police, he/she would probably get the death penalty.

Doubtful.

[Ming]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
Once he's out the door, then he's not my problem. Worst case is if you shoot him in the back, then go kick him over and shoot him from the front, too. Good hollowpoints or glasers won't fully penetrate, and without exit wounds, it's pretty hard to tell what came first.

"Gee, in all the confusion I kept firing until he went down. I was just so scared for my little kid's safety. I guess he must have spun around."

Hmmm... sounds like you have already thought it all out

But I agree... "It was dark, I saw the gun, and I just started firing... you know, had to protect my wife and kids"

Not a jury in America would convict you...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Worst case is if you shoot him in the back, then go kick him over and shoot him from the front, too. Good hollowpoints or glasers won't fully penetrate, and without exit wounds, it's pretty hard to tell what came first.

Not a jury in America would convict you...

Well maybe if you were Osama bin Laden, you may get a conviction, but even then the jury might let him off .

[Tuberski]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Once he's out the door, then he's not my problem. Worst case is if you shoot him in the back, then go kick him over and shoot him from the front, too. Good hollowpoints or glasers won't fully penetrate, and without exit wounds, it's pretty hard to tell what came first.

"Gee, in all the confusion I kept firing until he went down. I was just so scared for my little kid's safety. I guess he must have spun around."

You obviously don't watch forensic files. They would be able to tell that the second shot was from closer range. blood splatter from you rolling him over would also let them know you rolled him over.

You would be accused of manslaughter at least.

ACK!

[Tuberski]

Oh, I saw a thing on "Celebrity Justice"(don't ask) about a lady that is sueing Scare Tactics because they scared her so bad.

It sounded silly at first:

She was scared by a fake alien that jumped out of the bushes and against her car window.

But, the fact that she didn't know she was on a show makes me think she has a decent case.

She is also going to counseling because of the incident.

ACK!

[Shi Huangdi]

Tuberski is right there... you'd probably stand a better chance being honest and shooting the intruder on sight. if you snuck uo in him and his back was towards you and his weapon was in his hand, i doubt a jury would convict you.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Originally posted by Ming


Hmmm... sounds like you have already thought it all out

Not for me. I'm a first shot to the forehead sort of guy.

(That's what I meant by the IQ test - see if he has any brains. )


Tuberski - shoot him through a pillow for the follow up shots. Then stuff it in the back of the linen closet, or someplace NOT near the trash or outside. That'll take care of the powder residue and muzzle flash burn problem (or you can prop him up and shoot from about the same distance as the original shots.)

Blood spatter could be problematic, but you can always roll him around a bit, saying you wanted to see if he had a gun, so you moved him, and then you wanted to see if he was alive, cuz you felt sooooooooo bad etc. and wondered if you should do CPR or call an ambulance, etc. etc.

Then you move a coupla pieces of furniture around, throw a blanket on him (so the kids don't see if they come downstairs), and generally wander about like a distraught idiot ****ing up the crime scene beyond any use. "Oh, gee, you mean I shouldn't have done all that? I didn't know... "



Nobody's gonna bother doing detailed forensics on a case involving a breakin by some scumbag. Your estranged multimillionaire husband you just took out a multi-million life policy on, while you booked a vacation cruise with your boyfriend, yeah, a scumbag burglar, no. Crime scene exams will be superficial too, once it's established this is some random *******, and not the neighbor who accused you of cheating at poker last week.

[GePap]

An individual who did this could claim self-defense as far as the shooting is concerned, though if they did it in a state without conceealed weapons laws, they could get charged with a gun violantion.

The producers of the show would probalby be sued by the family of the actor shot, and they could be charged with some criminal offense, for creating a situation in which the risk of somehting happening was high, though if they can claim the person they intended to scare should not have been armed, they might bet off.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


Once he's out the door, then he's not my problem. Worst case is if you shoot him in the back, then go kick him over and shoot him from the front, too. Good hollowpoints or glasers won't fully penetrate, and without exit wounds, it's pretty hard to tell what came first.

Except that now there's a blood stain on the floor where you've rolled him on his back...

[Dr Strangelove]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
I'd vote for letting Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama all becoming newly-submerged areas. Add the Florida panhandle to that.

In response to the thread subject, I think in most places, unless the shooter could show that there was sufficient reason to use lethal force (a standard which I think is higher in most places than Texas), the shooter could be charged with a crime. Manslaughter would probably fit the bill, at worst second-degree murder.

Hey, in Louisiana and Florida you can shoot camera weilding foreigners who stray onto your property without fear of reprisal by the state.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Tuberski


You obviously don't watch forensic files. They would be able to tell that the second shot was from closer range. blood splatter from you rolling him over would also let them know you rolled him over.

You would be accused of manslaughter at least.

ACK!

Powder burns are only viable out to 4-5 feet IIRC. Get a ladder and shoot him from there, though. Don't just shoot him from ten feet back; the angle will be all wrong...

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove


Hey, in Louisiana and Florida you can shoot camera weilding foreigners who stray onto your property without fear of reprisal by the state.

Hey, doc: if a PPD test is going to react, when (how long would it take) would you see the first signs? What does a positive reaction look like (i.e. what is "10 mm induration")?