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    The Last Refuge
    By PAUL KRUGMAN


    n 1944, millions of Americans were engaged in desperate battles across the world. Nonetheless, a normal presidential election was held, and the opposition didn't pull its punches: Thomas Dewey, the Republican candidate, campaigned on the theme that Franklin Roosevelt was a "tired old man." As far as I've been able to ascertain, the Roosevelt administration didn't accuse Dewey of hurting morale by questioning the president's competence. After all, democracy — including the right to criticize — was what we were fighting for.

    It's not a slur on the courage of our troops, or a belittling of the risks they face, to say that our current war is a mere skirmish by comparison. Yet self-styled patriots are trying to impose constraints on political speech never contemplated during World War II, accusing anyone who criticizes the president of undermining the war effort.

    Last week John Kerry told an audience that "what we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but we need a regime change in the United States." Republicans immediately sought to portray this remark as little short of treason. "Senator Kerry crossed a grave line when he dared to suggest the replacement of America's commander in chief at a time when America is at war," declared Marc Racicot, chairman of the Republican National Committee.

    Notice that Mr. Racicot wasn't criticizing Mr. Kerry's choice of words. Instead, he denounced Mr. Kerry because he "dared to suggest the replacement of America's commander in chief" — knowing full well that Mr. Kerry was simply talking about the next election. Mr. Racicot, not Mr. Kerry, is the one who crossed a grave line; never in our nation's history has it been considered unpatriotic to oppose an incumbent's re-election.

    Anyway, what defines patriotism? Talk is cheap; so is putting a flag in your lapel. Citizens prove their patriotism when they make sacrifices for the sake of their country. Mr. Kerry, a decorated veteran, has met that test. Most of his critics haven't.

    I'm not just talking about military service — though it's striking how few of our biggest hawks have served. Nor am I talking only about financial sacrifice — though profiting from public office seems to be the norm, not the exception, among those who wrap themselves in the flag. (Mr. Racicot himself accepted the job as R.N.C. chairman only on the condition that he remain on the payroll of Bracewell and Patterson, a law firm that specializes in lobbying.)

    The biggest test of a politician's patriotism is whether he is willing to sacrifice some of his political agenda for the sake of the nation. And that's a test our current leaders have failed with flying colors.

    Consider the case of Tom DeLay, the House majority leader, who also piled on Mr. Kerry last week. As it happens, during the war in Kosovo Mr. DeLay was a defeatist, and blamed his own country for provoking Serbian atrocities; any Democrat who said similar things now would be accused of giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

    Mr. DeLay's political agenda hasn't shifted a bit now that we're at war again. He's still pushing for huge, divisive tax cuts that go mainly to the rich: "Nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes," he says. And he's still eager to slash any and all domestic spending. In the midst of war he pushed through a budget that included sharp cuts in, yes, veterans' benefits.

    You can see why Mr. Kerry blasted back, "I'm not going to be questioned in my patriotism by the likes of Tom DeLay."

    Some timid souls will suggest that critics of the Bush administration hold off until the war is over. But that's not the American tradition — and anyway, when will this war be over? Baghdad will fall, but during the occupation that follows American soldiers will still be in harm's way. Also, a strong faction within the administration wants to go on to Syria, to Iran and beyond. And Al Qaeda is still out there.

    For years to come, then, this country may be, in some sense, at war. And all that time, if Mr. Racicot and his party are allowed to set the ground rules, nobody will be allowed to criticize the president or call for his electoral defeat. You know what? If that happens, we will have lost the war, whatever happens on the battlefield.


    I most definitely agree with the vast majority of what was said. I think most peole attakcing those that critizice the government should get off thier self-righteous asses and go to alibrary, and read newspapers from WW2 to see what a real democracy was about: that when your nation is at war, that is precisely the moment to stand up for its principles, not to shrink and demure to those in power.

    It seem the less American's actually do for America, the more we become consumers (of stuff, of news) as opposed to citizens, the more we want to put on a pedestals those that we think are fulfilling the models we have in our heads of what citizens were: but its a false pedestal and one that errodes further what it tries to symbolically immitate.
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  • #2
    :nods:
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    • #3
      : pukes :
      Last edited by SlowwHand; April 8, 2003, 12:57.
      Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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      He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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      • #4
        He gets about that Krugman fella.
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        • #5
          Want something to protest? Protest this.
          Do some reading yourself.



          Operation Iraqi Freedom: Figures by AII POW-MIA

          01 APR 03 : Army Pfc. Jessica Lynch, 19, Palestine, W.Va. RESCUED

          As of 05 APR 03:

          Prisoner of War (POW): 7

          USA Spc. Edgar Adan Hernandez, 21, of Mission, Texas

          USA Spc. Joseph Neal Hudson, 23, of Alamogordo, N.M.

          USA Spc. Shoshana Nyree Johnson, 30, of El Paso, Texas

          USA Pfc. Patrick Wayne Miller, 23, of Walter, Kan.

          USA Sgt. James Joseph Riley, 31, of Pennsauken, N.J.

          USA Chief Warrant Officer David S. Williams

          USA Chief Warrant Officer Ronald D. Young Jr.

          Duty Status Whereabouts Unknown (DUSTWUN): 8

          Army Sgt. Edward J. Anguiano, 24, Brownsville, Texas.

          Marine Pfc. Tamario D. Burkett, 21, Buffalo, N.Y.

          Marine Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, 22, Waterford, Conn.

          Marine Lance Cpl. Donald J. Cline, Jr., 21, Sparks, Nev.

          Marine Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, 30, Decatur, Ill.

          Marine Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings, 19, Boiling Springs, S.C.

          Marine Sgt. Fernando Padilla-Ramirez, 26, Yuma, Ariz.

          Marine Sgt. Brendon Reiss, 23, Casper, Wyo.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #6
            Ahh, invoking the sacrifice of others to justify your own acts and opinions...just the sort of "last refugee" that phrase speaks off, Slowwly, just the sort of thing it speaks of.


            All I know is, if Bodd's disgarees it must be right.
            If you don't like reality, change it! me
            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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            • #7
              Ok, I protest that those men and women were placed in harms way in the first place.
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              • #8
                Sloww, what about that should I protest? That the Iraqis have the gall to defend themselves against imperialist aggression?
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                • #9
                  Sloww, what does a list of lost soldiers show? Of course it's a tragedy, but doesn't that just prove an anti-war point?

                  We should never lose the right to criticism, not even during a time of war.

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                  • #10
                    GePap, I'm shocked and dismayed that you would post such an article in this time of unquestionable American righteousness. I can only conclude that you are in fact a godless, Saddam-loving, baby-eating communist terrorist that should be immediately rounded up by the correct local militia and be taught what it really means to love America.

                    Edit: smile, at MarkG's request, just in case someone thinks I wasn't being sarcastic.
                    Last edited by Kontiki; April 8, 2003, 13:47.
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                    • #11
                      Kontiki, i beg you, put a smilie in your post
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                      • #12
                        Fine, RJ. Protest this.
                        And oh yeah, let's just ****ing forget that Hussein was given ample ****ing opportunity to step aside.


                        Jailed Iraqi children run free as marines roll into Baghdad suburbs
                        1 hour, 15 minutes ago

                        BAGHDAD (AFP) - More than 100 children held in a prison celebrated their freedom as US marines rolled into northeast Baghdad amid chaotic scenes which saw civilians loot weapons from an army compound, a US officer said.


                        Around 150 children spilled out of the jail after the gates were opened as a US military Humvee vehicle approached, Lieutenant Colonel Fred Padilla told an AFP correspondent travelling with the Marines 5th Regiment.

                        "Hundreds of kids were swarming us and kissing us," Padilla said.

                        "There were parents running up, so happy to have their kids back."

                        "The children had been imprisoned because they had not joined the youth branch of the Baath party," he alleged. "Some of these kids had been in there for five years."







                        Yeah. The USA and Britain just suck, don't they?
                        Get a grip.
                        Last edited by SlowwHand; April 8, 2003, 13:54.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Kontiki
                          Edit: smile, at MarkG's request, just in case someone thinks I wasn't being sarcastic.
                          Well, for a second I was quite unsure...
                          Blah

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                          • #14
                            did you even read the article Sloww?

                            Where does it say that American sucks? hmm, let me look, oh, nowhere.

                            Go ahead, be as indignant, self-rightesous, rabid as you can be..it doesn't address the points made, and it doesn't make a difference either.

                            But from your commenst lately, I could have expected nothing else either.
                            If you don't like reality, change it! me
                            "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
                            "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
                            "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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                            • #15
                              Fine, RJ. Protest this.
                              And oh yeah, let's just ****ing forget that Hussein was given ample ****ing opportunity to step aside.
                              -So America should have the power and right to depose third world rulers at will immediately

                              Yeah. The USA and Britain just suck, don't they?
                              -And how many Iraqi civilians have you killed to get that far?
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