When is the right time to change sides?

[BeBMan]

No, it is not about the Iraqi army, IRG or something else in that direction.

This thread is for people like me (undecided about this war) or others who even oppose the war. Since victory for the coalition seems to be at hand, isn´t it time for us to start saying that we always thought this was a great idea, and we knew the outcome from the beginning, and that we´re glad someone liberated Iraq?

Or should we wait a little bit more?

Please help me out of this mental conflict!

[DinoDoc]

You have about 5 years before you have to change your mind.

[BeBMan]

What is in five years? Or do you think we need some years before we can make any judgement?

[Lancer]

Folks might believe you BeBro, because who keeps track...but that ******* in charge over there, we'll remember.

Funny story, in the US they have renamed french fries 'freedom fries', french toast 'freedom toast'. Anyway, I gave my wife a kiss the other day and whispered to her "that's a freedom kiss". She laughed and said "no freedom for YOU!"

Anyway, you Germans need to use judgement. Either you're attacking every frigging country under the sun, or you're wimping out in the face of a two bit tyrant like Saddam. This is the thing, some asses need to be kicked, others not. With you guys its all or nothing, and that's screwed up.

[Urban Ranger]

Bad idea. There is no justification for this invasion, hence regardless of the outcome, it is a bad war.

[DinoDoc]

Originally posted by BeBro
Or do you think we need some years before we can make any judgement?

Yes. However since I don't particularly care about democracy in the Middle East, I'm safe from having to change my mind.

[Sava]

I'll applaud the men and women of the Armed Forces regardless of the outcome of the war. All the more so if it turns out well. Bush still is, and always will be an *sshole. This war will always be wrong, started for the wrong reasons, and unjustified. But I do hope that now it's going on, that it turns out well. Although my suspicion is that it won't. Suicide bombings and terrorist attacks will become more frequent and will probably start in the US. I'm not at all optimistic about the occupation either. We're still in Korea after 50 years for f*ck's sake! And now we're going to occupy a region filled with suicidal fundamentalist bast4rds. And our very presence creates more fanatics.

[Willem]

Originally posted by BeBro
What is in five years? Or do you think we need some years before we can make any judgement?

We'll have to wait that long before we really see whether the world is a better place because of it. If the country is embroiled in civil war, and the Arab region is in turmoil as well, to name a couple of examples, then it was a bad idea.

[Caesar the Great]

it isn't a good war until its successful....

i just love the irony, the iraqis are firing at us with the ammunition we sold to them during the iran/iraq war

[Sava]

Not only "we" Caesar, but many of the same f*ckers that armed Saddam are now leading the war against him. Personally, I think these *ssholes should be held accountable.

[Master Zen]

Originally posted by DinoDoc

Yes. However since I don't particularly care about democracy in the Middle East, I'm safe from having to change my mind.

I'm sure most of your policy-makers don't either

so much for "iraqui freedom", true intentions have been revealed....

[BeBMan]

Originally posted by Lancer
Anyway, you Germans need to use judgement. Either you're attacking every frigging country under the sun, or you're wimping out in the face of a two bit tyrant like Saddam.

I have to admit thats a quite good characterization about Germany´s entire history

Dino: ok, I´ll start a new thread about this in five years or so

[Sava]

Master Zen

When Bush and his crew say "Democracy" they mean "regime we can control".

[Zkribbler]

Originally posted by Sava
I'll applaud the men and women of the Armed Forces regardless of the outcome of the war. All the more so if it turns out well. Bush still is, and always will be an *sshole. This war will always be wrong, started for the wrong reasons, and unjustified. But I do hope that now it's going on, that it turns out well. Although my suspicion is that it won't. Suicide bombings and terrorist attacks will become more frequent and will probably start in the US. I'm not at all optimistic about the occupation either. We're still in Korea after 50 years for f*ck's sake! And now we're going to occupy a region filled with suicidal fundamentalist bast4rds. And our very presence creates more fanatics.

Yeah, what Sava said.

It was wrong to start this war. Even if it turns out okay, that will never make the war right.

(BTW, hats off to our valient fighting forces. They are doing a great job!)

[Az]

It was wrong to start this war. Even if it turns out okay, that will never make the war right.

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So let me get this straight. If the effects of the war will be peace, happiness and prosperity, you'd still think that it was a mistake?

for shame.