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  • #16
    Artillery is relatively easy (not totally easy, but relatively) to hit once it starts firing. American technology can supposedly pick up its location through seismic data and radar. I don't know how effective those are, but they should allow American firepower to put the kibosh on any Iraqi guns that threaten the airport.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Felch X
      Artillery is relatively easy (not totally easy, but relatively) to hit once it starts firing. American technology can supposedly pick up its location through seismic data and radar. I don't know how effective those are, but they should allow American firepower to put the kibosh on any Iraqi guns that threaten the airport.
      It's called "counter-battery" firing. On my ship we used to do counter battery live fires, it is relatively easy to hit artillery once you know where it's coming from. Some radars will be able to pick up the incoming shells and reverse the trajectory to it's point of origin, lock in, and fire.

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      • #18
        That's why most artillery batteries are highly mobile (the radar tracking of incoming shells is a technology that dates from WW2).

        I'd be pretty sure that the Iraqi's have 'ranged' most important spots in the airport so they could easily hit anything there quickly.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ned
          Rivera, and I hope they let him get back with the 101st, had some interesting reports from the 101st desert base. Each time a chopper landed or took off it created a dust cloud that enveloped the chopper leading to all sorts of hard landings and mishaps. I think it must alse be hell on every aspect of the chopper's moving parts.

          No, I can see most of our chopper force moving into Baghdad international ASAP.
          Rivera is goddamned lucky he's not locked up facing charges of aiding and abetting the enemy. I think it was chicken**** of the Pentagon to settle for letting Rivera leave Iraq voluntarily, as opposed to being ordered out. Peter Arnett just ran his mouth like an ignorant collaborationist asswipe, Rivera endangered lives of troops in the field. Rivera should never again under any circumstance be allowed to cover US military operations.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat
            Rivera should never again under any circumstance be allowed to cover US military operations.
            I'm somewhat shocked they even let him stay in Kuwait.
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            • #21
              the airport has been used already by 101.

              it's not like we're going to park all our planes there, it's more of a "drop point" for supplies or troops we'd need on the fly.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                Rivera is goddamned lucky he's not locked up facing charges of aiding and abetting the enemy.


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                Rivera should never again under any circumstance be allowed to cover US military operations.
                Ever heard words "an acceptable risk"?

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                • #23
                  I dunno if this has been said already, but the location of the airport may be strategic in some way, and by taking it, may present a tactical advantage to coalition forces massing around Baghdad
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by raghar

                    Ever heard words "an acceptable risk"?
                    What's that got to do with Rivera?
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                    • #25
                      Fox News believes it's acceptable to risk his ass in a shooting war.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #26
                        To risk lives of small group of soldiers in hypothetical threat could be less damaging for democratic society than abruptly deny citizen right on information.


                        BTW Not only FOX believe that risk live or personal freedom of lets call them journalists could be less dangerous than losses in TV rating. This is acceptable by FOX "monkeys". On other side, some journalist would like their work done properly even if this means pissing of US troops and goverment. Some of them believs that this case was acceptable for totalitarian system, but not for "democracy".
                        To put it simply US goverment crossed the line and in long terms it could severaly backfire.

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                        • #27
                          BBC thinks so


                          Like an island surrounded by outlying fields, the airport is just 20 kilometres (12 miles) to the southwest of Baghdad with an approach road that runs straight to the heart of the capital
                          "The communications are good - airport communications always are. It is the perfect distance from the city centre. It doesn't look as if there will be a great missile threat to incoming aircraft."
                          So, odds are it's earmarked for a future coalition HQ, if the facilities can be taken intact.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by raghar
                            To risk lives of small group of soldiers in hypothetical threat could be less damaging for democratic society than abruptly deny citizen right on information.
                            Why does the public have the right to know the exact position and planned routes of troops?
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                            • #29
                              They've started flying C-130s in to airport, apparently.

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                              • #30
                                some questions (i've been avoiding the news particularly since i don't want to swallow so much spin from every which way):

                                1. what did peter arnett do?
                                2. what did geraldo do?
                                3. did congress ever officially declare war?
                                4. have basra and nasiriyah fallen yet?
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