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  • #16
    Originally posted by Albert Speer
    Eminem is a waste of talent. He rhymes pretty good and he's good at the actual act of rapping (being on beat and having emotion and charisma and all that) but 90% of his songs are garbage... constant repeating of how he hates celebrities and how he's beong oppressed by protestors...

    He wasnt always like this though... in 1997, he dropped an album that was completely a serious, uplifting album... with song's like It's Okay, Never 2 Far (a hopeful song of riches), Searchin' (a love song for his ex-wife saying how he searched for someone like her for years), Maxine (a song about a sexually loose woman who gets AIDS), etc. he was a very socially conscious rapper. The album flopped and he attempted suicide... after failing in the suicide attempt, he said he didnt give a **** anymore and would let his 'id' take over


    thanks
    Listen to speer guys. I know you guys dont like speer's opinions, but when it comes to rap he's got it right on.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Osweld
      He's a musician, not a politician. I don't understand why some people can't seem to seperate this.
      For that matter, so's Barbra Streisand. Eminem is a lot less annoying if you ask me. I actually didn't know he had opinions about anything but homosexuals and Christina Aguilera until you folks said something....
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      • #18
        Yeah, but he's so right about Aguilera .

        I actually like Eminem... for a rap dude.
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        • #19
          I think Eminem is one of the most talented rappers. Seriously.
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          • #20
            Vesayen, unless you have some sort of rap expertise (it's obvious that you don't, though), I can't say I find your opinion about the quality of Eminem's artistry or the deservedness of his success particularly valid.

            What's more, the implication that one has to be white to like Eminem is absurd, since the entire reason for his success is that he was able to establish credibility with blacks as a serious rap artist.

            At any rate, I despise the opinions he expresses, don't buy his absurd side-stepping of them and think that rap in general is an unpleasant thing for the ears. But I don't think that puts me in a position to judge his talent nor those who appreciate it.
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            • #21
              I think it's funny watching people get pissed off at Eminem.
              To us, it is the BEAST.

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              • #22
                Re: Im sorry if you like Eminem, but your not black and he isnt a gifted musician

                Originally posted by Vesayen
                I bet I could become instantly more famous then eminem by doing an act just as bad as he does........if I run break into CNN's news room and run past the camera naked....boom-as famous as he is.
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                • #23
                  I like some of his stuff. I don't know why you have to be a "rap expert" to comment.

                  He is a bit of dickhead, but his life doesn't sound that great before he became famous.
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                  • #24
                    He's not a musician but he is an excellent technical rapper and lyricist.
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                    • #25
                      I think he's very talented as well. I am not a fan or something, but he knows how to rhyme. And what "white" has to do with that?
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                      • #26
                        I like his music a lot as he is a very talented musician but I agree with probably sod all of his beliefs. Does that still make me a fool?

                        Considering that Elton John managed to get over Eminem's homophobic prejudices and sang a duet with him, you sniping from the sidelines is just a total waste of space.

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                        • #27
                          i hate the man but u can't help but liking some of his songs, and then i get mad at myself for liking them...i think he is in need of some serious therapy, but he must have some talent if he can give the world the finger and get away with it...Also, from the way i hear other rappers talk about him, there seems to be a great amount of respect for his ability in "the community"
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Boris Godunov
                            What's more, the implication that one has to be white to like Eminem is absurd, since the entire reason for his success is that he was able to establish credibility with blacks as a serious rap artist.
                            Maybe it's me, but I thought he implied that you had to be black to like Eminem
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Garth Vader


                              Maybe it's me, but I thought he implied that you had to be black to like Eminem
                              He said "I'm sorry if you like Eminem, but you're not black..." The implication is that white rap listeners aren't qualified to judge the talent of a rap artist, only black listeners are.

                              Either way, it is a condescendingly racist remark.
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                              • #30
                                u severely degrade ur credibility when u mention gifted musician and his "complete lack of values." as it is obviously implying that u r so offended by his values that it is unlikely u could be objective.

                                but gj on the hating.

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